In_equality Podcast
In_equality Podcast
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In_equality Podcast – der Podcast zur UngleichheitsforschungWarum sind Einkommen, Bildung und Chancen so ungleich verteilt? Welche sozialen, politischen und wirtschaftlichen Mechanismen verstärken oder verringern diese Ungleichheiten? Und warum spielt unsere Wahrnehmung von Ungleichheit dabei eine entscheidende Rolle?Diesen Fragen widmet sich der In_equality Podcast. Einmal im Monat diskutieren die Hosts Gabi Spilker und Marius R. Busemeyer vom Exzellenzcluster „The Politics of Inequality“ an der Universität Konstanz mit führenden Expert*innen über die politischen Dimensionen von Ungleichheit. Sie beleuchten aktuelle wissenschaftliche Studien, sprechen über konkrete Praxisbeispiele und analysieren gesellschaftliche Entwicklungen, die unsere Gegenwart und Zukunft prägen.Ob Bildungsungleichheit, soziale Mobilität, Vermögensverteilung oder politische Teilhabe – der In_equality Podcast bringt fundierte Erkenntnisse aus Wissenschaft und Praxis zusammen und macht komplexe Zusammenhänge verständlich.Podcast description: In_equality Podcast – The Podcast on Inequality ResearchWhy are income, education, and opportunities so unequally distributed? What social, political, and economic mechanisms reinforce or reduce these inequalities? And why does our perception of inequality play a crucial role?The In_equality Podcast explores these questions. Once a month, hosts Gabi Spilker and Marius R. Busemeyer from the Cluster of Excellence “The Politics of Inequality” at the University of Konstanz engage in discussions with leading experts on the political dimensions of inequality. They examine current scientific studies, discuss practical examples, and analyze societal developments shaping our present and future.From educational inequality and social mobility to wealth distribution and political participation – the In_equality Podcast brings together solid academic insights and real-world perspectives, making complex issues accessible.
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The podcast focuses on various aspects of inequality, including educational inequality, social mobility, wealth distribution, and political participation, with episodes discussing topics like the rise of right-wing populism and its implications for democracy.

In_equality Podcast – der Podcast zur Ungleichheitsforschung
Warum sind Einkommen, Bildung und Chancen so ungleich verteilt? Welche sozialen, politischen und wirtschaftlichen Mechanismen verstärken oder verringern diese Ungleichheiten? Und warum spielt unsere Wahrnehmung von Ungleichheit dabei eine entscheidende Rolle?
Diesen Fragen widmet sich der In_equality Podcast. Einmal im Monat diskutieren die Hosts Gabi Spilker und Marius R. Busemeyer vom Exzellenzcluster „The Politics of Inequality“ an der Universität Konstanz mit führenden Expert*innen über die politischen Dimensionen von Ungleichheit. Sie beleuchten aktuelle wissenschaftliche Studien, sprechen über konkrete Praxisbeispiele und analysieren gesellschaftliche Entwicklungen, die unsere Gegenwart und Zukunft prägen.
Ob Bildungsungleichheit, soziale Mobilität, Vermögensverteilung oder politische Teilhabe – der In_equality Podcast bringt fundierte Erkenntnisse aus Wissenschaft und Praxis zusammen und macht komplexe Zusammenhänge verständlich.
Podcast description:
In_equality Podcast – The Podcast on Inequality Research
Why are income, education, and opportunities so unequally distributed? What social, political, and economic mechanisms reinforce or reduce these inequalities? And why does our perception of inequality play a crucial role?
The In_equality Podcast explores these questions. Once a month, hosts Gabi Spilker and Marius R. Busemeyer from the Cluster of Excellence “The Politics of Inequality” at the University of Konstanz engage in discussions with leading experts on the political dimensions of inequality. They examine current scientific studies, discuss practical examples, and analyze societal developments shaping our present and future.
From educational inequality and social mobility to wealth distribution and political participation – the In_equality Podcast brings together solid academic insights and real-world perspectives, making complex issues accessible.
Hosts:
Marius R. Busemeyer – Professor of Comparative Political Economy at the University of Konstanz and Speaker of the Cluster of Excellence “The Politics of Inequality”.
Gabriele Spilker – Professor of International Politics at the University of Konstanz and Co-Speaker of the Cluster.
Guest:
David Rueda – Professor of Comparative Politics at the University of Oxford and Fellow at Nuffield College; Senior Fellow at the Cluster of Excellence “The Politics of Inequality”. His research focuses on the political economy of redistribution, unions and social democracy, and perceptions of fairness and deservingness.
Episode Overview
Is inequality always seen as unfair? Or do people sometimes consider it justified? In this episode, Marius R. Busemeyer and Gabriele Spilker speak with David Rueda about fairness, meritocracy, and the political foundations of redistribution.
Drawing on large-scale surveys and innovative lab experiments, Rueda shows that support for redistribution is not driven by income alone. While material self-interest matters, perceptions of fairness and deservingness play a crucial role in shaping attitudes toward taxation, welfare, and inequality. The episode also explores how concerns about crime, insecurity, and social order intersect with redistributive politics — and whether investing in redistribution may ultimately be more effective than investing in punishment.
Episode Highlights
Fairness, Merit, and Self-Interest
- Inequality is more likely to be accepted when it is perceived as the outcome of effort and merit rather than luck.
- Support for redistribution reflects both material self-interest and normative beliefs about fairness.
Information and Inequality Perceptions
- Survey experiments show that informing citizens about high levels of inequality increases support for redistribution among the poor.
- Among the rich, the same information increases polarization: some become less supportive, others more supportive.
What Happens in the Lab?
- Participants perform a real effort task and earn income, which is then subject to taxation and redistribution with real monetary consequences.
- Procedural fairness matters: affluent participants are more supportive of redistribution when the poor have worked but were disadvantaged by luck.
Redistribution vs. Policing
- In a second stage, participants can invest either in redistribution or in policing to deter theft.
- When the rich underinvest in redistribution, they later spend more on policing.
Implications for Welfare State Politics
- Support for redistribution among the poor is relatively stable; shifts among the rich are crucial.
- Perceptions of work, merit, and deservingness strongly shape affluent voters’ preferences.
Links & Further Reading
More about the Cluster of Excellence “The Politics of Inequality”: www.exc.uni-konstanz.de/inequality
· Further information:
o Fetscher, V. and Rueda, D. (2023): “For Richer and for Poorer: Income, Perceptions of Inequality and Support for Redistribution”. Preprint.
o Rueda, D. and Stegmueller, D. (2019): “Who Wants What? Redistribution Preferences in Comparative Perspective”. Cambridge University Press.
o In_equality Colloquium with David Rueda: “Crime or redistribution: Fairness, effort and income”. 8 Octobre 2024.
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