In this insightful episode of the Pulse Ox Podcast, host Eric Stopper welcomes Jonathan Westover – professor, departmental chair, and organizational leadership expert at Utah Valley University. Not only is Jonathan Westover a father of six and a prolific researcher, but he also brings a thoughtful, candid perspective on intuition, inspiration, and how serendipity can catalyze career-defining moments.They dive deep into Dr. Westover’s winding academic journey, from BYU to his challenging doctoral dissertation defense at the University of Utah. Listen as he recounts how a tense, politically charged Q&A session sparked a flash of mind-opening inspiration, helping him to clearly articulate—and ultimately reframe—the premise of his research on international employee motivation and job satisfaction. You’ll hear how this moment didn’t just silence a difficult critic, but also became the foundation for over 15 years of continued research.The conversation explores the science and magic of “flow state,” the importance of over-preparing yet going with the flow, and why hard work and “getting in the zone” are indispensable to productivity and creativity. They also discuss how physiological and spiritual experiences—like feeling elevation emotion or that “still small voice”—intersect with our professional and personal lives, especially in the high-pressure moments we all face.Whether you’re fascinated by organizational theory, curious about the intersection of spirituality and neuroscience, or simply want to hear a candid story of overcoming adversity, this episode is packed with practical wisdom, relatable insights, and genuine vulnerability.Highlights:Dr. Westover’s reflections on intuition in critical momentsNavigating departmental politics as a doctoral candidateBreaking ground in cross-national motivation researchThe power of flow state and daily rituals for productivitySpirituality, physiology, and the “elevation emotion”Why there’s no substitute for doing the workConnect with Dr. Jonathan Westover:Find him easily on LinkedIn—just search “Jonathan Westover”.Enjoyed the episode? Please like, subscribe, and share with a friend!00:00 Defense Challenges and Academic Tensions06:32 Dissertation Critique and Response07:46 Global Context in Job Motivation13:30 Power of Flow State14:33 ”Inspiration Requires Effortful Preparation”17:59 Physiology, Experience, and Hymns