What the Swiss F-35 Deal Teaches Us About Procurement
Glenn Smith interviews Mirko Kleiner
Businesses today are operating in turbulent times. Technology, particularly AI, is enforcing an exponential change in working methods, product requirements, and customer expectations. As if that wasn’t enough, geopolitical challenges, from the turmoil of political uncertainty to a period of high inflation and high-interest rates, are taking their toll.
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Businesses today are operating in turbulent times. Technology, particularly AI, is enforcing an exponential change in working methods, product requirements, and customer expectations. As if that wasn’t enough, geopolitical challenges, from the turmoil of political uncertainty to a period of high inflation and high-interest rates, are taking their toll.
All is not lost. Across the globe, business leaders are overcoming these challenges. In the art of being nimble podcast, we interview them to hear their stories so you can learn from their experiences.

What can a controversial fighter jet deal teach us about the way organisations buy products and services?
In this episode of The Art of Being Nimble, Glenn Smith is joined by Mirko Kleiner, co-founder of the Lean-Agile Procurement Alliance and a leading voice in rethinking procurement approaches.
Together, they unpack the Swiss government’s troubled acquisition of the F-35 fighter jet — a high-stakes, multi-billion deal that has become a national scandal. Mirko explains why traditional procurement processes often set both buyers and suppliers up for failure, particularly in fast-moving, complex environments.
The conversation explores:
Whether you’re managing multi-million contracts or simply trying to buy smarter in your organisation, this episode will change how you think about procurement — and why agility, trust, and collaboration matter more than ever.

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