Join Povism as he welcomes new artist Zoe to the show. Zoe recounts her initial foray into music, describing how a year eight teacher introduced her to a different approach—making music by writing to YouTube beats, a departure from her previous classical training. Currently, Zoe identifies her musical style as leaning towards folky, a genre she feels aligns well with her voice and guitar playing skills, contrasting with her past ventures into R&B. She also shares her broad listening tastes, asserting that she listens to everything alongside a lot of folk music.

The conversation also delves into Zoe's personal philosophy and creative process. She offers unfiltered advice for aspiring musicians, advocating to ”believe in yourself,” cultivate ”some kind of arrogance,” and to ”f*** the haters”. Zoe reveals that life itself is her primary inspiration, drawing on real-life experiences, shows, and even TV show lines for her music. Her strong self-belief is a grounding force, helping her navigate life and fostering confidence in her musical creations, as she now likes what she makes, unlike before. Listeners are given a preview of her upcoming EP, which has been three years in the making, and hear her song Bearing Clean. Zoe explains Bearing Clean as a candid reflection on her tendency to dislike people, particularly those she perceives as funnier, smarter, or cooler, a feeling rooted in jealousy and envy.