The Shift Code
The Shift Code
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PMI CEO Pierre Le Manh takes listeners inside real stories of organizational transformation from sectors and regions across the globe. Join us for candid conversations with top leaders in transformation as they give a behind-the-scenes look into the strategic and digital innovation driving their journeys, their lessons learned and the professional skills needed for success.
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The podcast focuses on themes such as organizational transformation, digital innovation, and leadership insights, with episodes that explore significant events like the U.S. moon landing and the evolution of the aerospace sector, illustrating how top leaders navigate change and embrace technology.

PMI CEO Pierre Le Manh takes listeners inside real stories of organizational transformation from sectors and regions across the globe. Join us for candid conversations with top leaders in transformation as they give a behind-the-scenes look into the strategic and digital innovation driving their journeys, their lessons learned and the professional skills needed for success.
In this episode of The Shift Code Podcast, host Pierre Le Manh is joined by Julia Dhar of Boston Consulting Group (BCG) to discuss why most change initiatives stall, how to architect decisions that accelerate adoption, and the human behavioral science principles that separate transformation success from failure.
What You’ll Learn:
- How to shift from false alignment to true agreement
- Why agency matters more than involvement in change initiatives
- How to architect choices that accelerate adoption
- The critical difference between threat, fitness, and destiny organizational change narratives
- Why process excellence is inseparable from human success
Julia Dhar is a Harvard-trained behavioral scientist and Managing Director at Boston Consulting Group, where she founded and leads BCG’s Behavioral Science Lab. She has spent more than a decade applying experimental behavioral science—drawing from psychology, economics, and neuroscience—to large-scale organizational change, advising CEOs and leadership teams across industries and countries. Julia’s TED talks on productive disagreement and constructive conversations have been viewed more than 8.5 million times. She is a Forbes columnist who has written for The Financial Times and Harvard Business Review and is a member of the Aspen Institute’s Advisory Board on Social Trust, and the National Advisory Board for Disagree Better. She holds a Master's in Public Policy (MPP) from Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government and a Bachelor's degree in Economic and Social Sciences from the University of Sydney. She has worked in more than 25 countries.
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