Out Of Programme
Podcast Description
The Out Of Programme (OOP) podcast shines a spotlight on clinicians who have ventured beyond the traditional path of clinical training to forge unique and unconventional careers. Hosted by Drs Jing and Muhammad, this series delves into the diverse backgrounds, driving motivations and transformative moments that shaped their journeys outside the realm of medicine. Whether you’re a clinician curious about life beyond the white coat or simply fascinated by stories of bold career reinvention, this podcast offers inspiring conversations and thought-provoking insights that go beyond the ordinary.
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This podcast explores themes around career reinvention within the healthcare sector, highlighting episodes such as Dr. Jing's transition from medicine to entrepreneurship with Patchwork and Liz Ashall-Payne's journey from speech and language therapist to CEO of ORCHA. Specific focus areas include digital health, mentorship, identity transitions, and the challenges faced by medical professionals moving into new roles.

The Out Of Programme (OOP) podcast shines a spotlight on clinicians who have ventured beyond the traditional path of clinical training to forge unique and unconventional careers.
Hosted by Dr Jing Ouyang, this series delves into the diverse backgrounds, driving motivations and transformative moments that shaped their journeys outside the realm of medicine. Whether you’re a clinician curious about life beyond the white coat or simply fascinated by stories of bold career reinvention, this podcast offers inspiring conversations and thought-provoking insights that go beyond the ordinary.
What happens when a junior doctor turns a single flat into 50 properties — and then builds a platform to fix the broken home-buying system?
In this episode, we speak with Dr Sayinthen Vivekanantham, a former NHS doctor who left clinical training to pursue property investing, eventually founding Homi, a fast-growing PropTech startup reshaping how real estate agents, solicitors, and buyers collaborate.
- 🏥 Why medicine felt like the wrong choice — and the creative frustration that sparked Say’s pivot
- 🧮 How he built a 50-property portfolio from scratch using spreadsheets, stress tests and grit
- 🧠 Lessons from failed startups and side projects in medical school
- 🔧 What inspired Homi and how Say bootstrapped it into a platform now powering 3,000+ transactions/month
- ⚖️ Balancing risk, regret, and building a scalable business — without losing your life to work
Say’s story is a deep dive into how to take calculated risks, trust your instincts, and design a career that fits you — not just your degree.
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