Credit Exchange
Credit Exchange
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Credit Exchange with Lisa Lee. Explore the latest trends in global credit markets with the biggest movers and shapers on Wall Street and the City, hosted by financial reporting veteran Lisa Lee.
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The podcast focuses on themes such as private credit fundraising, credit market crosswinds, and asset-based finance. Episodes include discussions on Ares Management's record-setting private credit fund and insights on the impact of immigration reform from Oak Hill Advisors, emphasizing investment quality and market dynamics.

Credit Exchange with Lisa Lee. Explore the latest trends in global credit markets with the biggest movers and shapers on Wall Street and the City, hosted by financial reporting veteran Lisa Lee.
The bankruptcies of auto sector firms First Brands and Tricolor Holdings hold “lessons for the future” for credit investors, says Tetragon co-CIO Dagmara Michalczuk on the latest episode of Credit Exchange with Lisa Lee. “The governance issue, although it seems like a soft and fuzzy idea, is incredibly important,” Michalczuk says. “Investing with folks that are not transparent – that has its risks. Lessons can be learned and should have been learned, in both instances.”
Overall, Michalczuk’s assessment of the general macro outlook sees slow growth, “slower than what we saw post-pandemic.” With this said, she agrees with the consensus view in the market that 2026 might see a reacceleration of growth, given the downward trajectory of rates, significant fiscal stimulus in the US and Europe, deregulation, and the ongoing capital investment in AI.
Credit investors should be prudent and have informed views and opinions on AI, Michalczuk says. At Tetragon, Michalczuk’s team is adapting by looking across their portfolio, “not just [at] software and tech companies, but all of our exposures,” considering both potential positive and negative impacts. “The big concern… is we’re missing something, [that] a business very rapidly becomes undone by a newcomer that disrupts the industry.” That’s why continual reanalysis over time is important, Michalczuk says.

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