If you’ve been hanging out with us for a while, you know we did an amazing Interrail trip last year and haven’t stopped talking about it since. Well, the travel itch is officially back, and it is entirely Cat Jones’s fault.

In this episode, we sit down with Cat, the absolute powerhouse founder of Byway; a brilliant travel tech company rewriting the rules of holidays. Think flight-free, multi-stop, gorgeous journeys over land and sea that prove the journey itself can be the absolute best part of the trip. (Goodbye airport chaos, hello dining cars and mountain views! 🏔️🍰)

Cat shares how Byway is using smart tech to fix the massive headache of planning flight-free travel, combining dynamic routing with independent, locally owned hotels, and (our personal favourite) an in-trip WhatsApp group that feels like texting your mates when things go a bit sideways.

Join us to chat about:

• Cat’s Top 3 Magical Routes: From waking up to deer on Rannoch Moor to paddling in Lake Bled by breakfast.
• Traveling with children: How to survive (and actually enjoy!) long train journeys with kids
• The “Package Holiday” Rethink: Why Byway reclaimed the term to protect green travelers.
• The Real Impact: Ditching short-haul flights and the frustrating politics behind jet fuel tax breaks.
• Sustainable Travel Leave: The ready-made policy that gets you extra holiday days just for choosing the train. (Yes, really. Go pitch it to your boss immediately!)

👉 Check out Byway: https://www.byway.travel/

00:00 – Introduction & The Joy of Slow Travel

02:47 – Introducing Cat Jones & The Concept of Byway

06:38 – The Tech Challenge: Solving Overland Travel Chaos

10:56 – The Hybrid Model: Package Protection & WhatsApp Support

15:33 – Are Flight Cancellations Shifting the Industry?

18:01 – Cat’s Top 3 Magical Train Journeys (Slovenia, Swiss Alps, & Scotland)

23:58 – Train Travel Pro-Tips for Parents with Kids

26:34 – Hard Data: The Climate & Community Impact of Ditching Flights

30:15 – What is “Sustainable Travel Leave”?

31:13 – The Behind-The-Scenes Startup Story of Byway

39:14 – Magic Wand: Fighting Jet Fuel Tax Breaks & Media Bias

46:12 – Seed Swapping!

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