The Marketing 32 Show
The Marketing 32 Show
Podcast Description
This is the Marketing 32 Show, a show that connects with leading dentists, influencers, and experts to explore strategies and innovations that help dental practices grow and thrive.
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The show focuses on various themes within dental practice management, including leadership development, marketing strategies, and financial planning, with episodes that highlight topics such as mental wellness in dentistry, transitioning from associate to multi-practice ownership, and creating effective dental implant marketing systems.

This is the Marketing 32 Show, a show that connects with leading dentists, influencers, and experts to explore strategies and innovations that help dental practices grow and thrive.
What happens when a dental hygienist working for an implantologist in Washington, DC gets asked to travel internationally teaching other dental teams how to support cutting-edge implant techniques, says yes, launches a 40-year speaking career while maintaining clinical work, moves to Singapore where she can’t practice dentistry, returns to the US and gets hired by Philips to be an educator delivering continuing education courses to dental professionals worldwide, spends 20 years in corporate education while building her own speaking business, and realizes that the common thread tying together her entire career—hygiene, device education, corporate training, and speaking coaching—is communication and influence? Lisa Copeland does exactly that, and through 40 years of speaking experience and thousands of interactions with patients, teams, and audiences, she discovers that every conversation truly does have consequences. If you’ve ever wondered why some practices have patients who enthusiastically accept treatment while others struggle to get case acceptance above 50%, why some dentists seem to effortlessly build referral relationships while others do excellent clinical work but stay small, or why certain speakers command rooms while others have credentials but no influence, this episode will completely transform how you think about communication, clarity, presence, and the power of making every conversation count.
Lisa Copeland started her career as a dental hygienist and spent 35 years in clinical practice. While working for an implantologist in Washington, DC who was one of the pioneers bringing implant techniques to the US, he asked her to travel internationally with him teaching other dental teams about their roles in the implant process. She said yes, and that moment launched a 40-year speaking career that would run parallel to her clinical work. She worked for a dental implant company, then when she and her husband moved to Singapore, she couldn’t practice dentistry. When she returned to the US, Philips hired her as an educator to deliver continuing education courses to dental professionals (dentists, dental assistants, hygienists) worldwide. She spent 20 years in that corporate role while simultaneously building her own speaking business called Communicate with Influence. The through-line of her entire career—hygiene, speaking, corporate education, and now coaching—is communication and influence. She eventually transitioned to full-time speaking coaching, helping others structure presentations and deliver messages that stick.
From 40 years of clinical and speaking experience, Lisa has learned something critical: every conversation has consequences. When a patient comes to the chair and says certain things, what they literally say is almost never what they actually mean. Patients are afraid of dentists. When a patient says “I need to think about it,” they’re usually saying “I’m afraid.” When they say “that’s too expensive,” they’re often saying “I’m confused or I don’t have enough information to make a decision or move forward.” When they say “I’m too busy,” they’re saying “I don’t trust you yet.” This is the tip of the iceberg—what’s visible on the surface. What lies beneath is what really matters. Missing these hidden meanings leaves money on the table and patients walking away without treatment they need. The same principle applies to team communication and speaking. The foundation of case acceptance is ensuring that every single team member is saying the exact same thing to patients. If a patient asks the hygienist a question and gets one answer, then asks the assistant and gets a different answer, and then asks the doctor and gets yet another answer, confusion sets in. And confused minds always say no. Patients will not move forward when they’re confused.
The second critical element is intentional handoffs. Instead of a patient finishing with the hygienist, going to the reception area, and then being taken to the doctor by whoever happens to grab them next, there should be deliberate transitions. The hygienist says to the receptionist (by name) “Carol, this is Mrs. Smith. She’s going to be waiting here for her appointment with the doctor. Mrs. Smith, Ange will be out to get you in just a few minutes.” Then when Ange comes out, she introduces herself: “Hi, I’m Ange. I’m going to be working with the doctor today. We’re looking forward to seeing you. Come on back and we’ll get you started.” Now Mrs. Smith has heard names and faces introduced intentionally—it creates continuity and confidence. This happens all day, every day, and it makes an enormous difference in how patients perceive the practice. The hygienist also plays a crucial role in priming the doctor. If the hygienist sees suspicious areas, she mentions them to the patient but doesn’t diagnose: “There are a few things I want the doctor to look at.” Then she tells the doctor exactly what she saw so he can reiterate the same information when he comes in. Where this often falls apart is with periodontal disease. The hygienist talks to the patient about periodontal disease and the need for scaling and root planing. The patient understands the situation. Then the doctor comes in and says “Yep, looks great” or doesn’t emphasize the same points, and suddenly everything the hygienist said feels dismissed. The patient hears conflicting messages and doesn’t move forward.
This episode is brought to you by Marketing 32—the only dental marketing team with a performance guarantee where if you’re not growing, you don’t pay. Marketing 32 is truly invested in adding value to your practice and working with doctors they know they can over-deliver for. As Denae powerfully illustrates in this episode, having a clear vision for what you’re building—both personally and professionally—is what separates practices that thrive from practices that just react by default. Marketing 32 helps you build the patient acquisition piece of that vision through strategic online presence, content creation, and growth campaigns. But as Denae emphasizes, marketing is just one lever to pull. You also need leadership, systems consistency, and communication frameworks that empower your team to make your practice work for you instead of you working for it. If you need help with marketing and growth, reach out at marketing32.com for a quick 15-minute discovery call to see if it’s a good fit.

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