Black mysticism is ancestral technology.

In this episode of Interrupting Everything, Nikki Blak is joined by Sanyu Estelle, an Claircognizant Soothsayer and Spiritual Strategist whose work blends personal truth, ancestral memory, and rigorous intuition.

Together, they talk about what it means to live a mystic life rooted in integrity, responsibility, and radical self-honesty.

They unpack:

• How spirituality gets co-opted and watered down by capitalism and how that shows up in white-led spiritual spaces

• The difference between convenience-based mysticism and committed spiritual lineage work

• Why Sanyu doesn’t believe in “gatekeeping” but does believe in sacred boundaries

• How she uses tarot and archival research as portals into past lives and future strategies

• The liberatory power of re-authoring your spiritual identity as a diasporic Black person

This conversation is layered. Nikki and Sanyu Estelle talk about mysticism as a lifestyle, not a hobby. They name what gets lost when spiritual work is decontextualized from Blackness. And they center the practices that pull us back into our bodies, back into our bloodlines, and back into power with, not power over.

If you’ve been feeling called to deepen your spiritual practice beyond the trends, or if you’re unlearning the whitewashed narratives that separate spirituality from justice, this one’s for you.

Special thanks to Def Sound for providing the theme for Interrupting Everything.⁣⁣⁣⁣