The Gen Mess with Tess
The Gen Mess with Tess
Podcast Description
Are generational divides in the workplace and in life driving you crazy?The Gen Mess with Tess is here to help! Hosted by Tess Brigham—certified coach, licensed therapist, TEDx speaker, author, and mom to a Gen Zer—this podcast tackles the challenges and complexities of navigating life and work across multiple generations. From the unique struggles of Gen Z to the evolving perspectives of Millennials, Gen X, and Baby Boomers, Tess brings her expertise to the table, offering practical advice, expert insights, and real conversations to bridge the generational gap. Whether you're trying to communicate better with colleagues, understand your kids, or just get a clearer perspective on the "mess" of it all, The Gen Mess with Tess is your go-to resource for understanding how different generations think, work, and live. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Content Themes
The podcast delves into themes such as generational divides, burnout, and workplace communication. Examples include episodes discussing the unique challenges faced by Millennials and Gen Z regarding burnout, and practical strategies for improving generational communication in the workplace. The show also highlights societal expectations and personal perspectives, aiming to bridge the gap among Baby Boomers, Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z.

Are generational divides in the workplace and in life driving you crazy?
The Gen Mess with Tess is here to help! Hosted by Tess Brigham—certified coach, licensed therapist, TEDx speaker, author, and mom to a Gen Zer—this podcast tackles the challenges and complexities of navigating life and work across multiple generations. From the unique struggles of Gen Z to the evolving perspectives of Millennials, Gen X, and Baby Boomers, Tess brings her expertise to the table, offering practical advice, expert insights, and real conversations to bridge the generational gap. Whether you’re trying to communicate better with colleagues, understand your kids, or just get a clearer perspective on the “mess” of it all, The Gen Mess with Tess is your go-to resource for understanding how different generations think, work, and live.
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Someone corners you at your desk to vent about a coworker. You listen, you nod, you leave them feeling a little lighter. You didn’t do anything wrong. But you just became the container for someone else’s unresolved conflict.
There’s a name for this. It’s called triangulation. And once you see it, you cannot unsee it.
In this solo episode I walk through the psychology of why this pattern is so hard to give up, drawing on Murray Bowen’s family systems theory and evolutionary psychologist Robin Dunbar’s research on gossip as social bonding. I cover the three real reasons people avoid going direct: it’s not just conflict avoidance, it’s anxiety regulation, it’s a genuine need to be seen, and it’s risk avoidance around a relationship that actually matters. I also share what happened with a client of mine, I’m calling her Maya, who spent over a year in the same Friday coffee ritual before one sentence to her manager changed everything.
If you’ve ever been someone’s Friday coffee, or if you’re a manager wondering why the same tension keeps surfacing on your team quarter after quarter, this episode is for you.
What you’ll learn in this episode:
- What triangulation is and why the triangle is more stable than a two-person relationship under stress
- The three real drivers behind this pattern: anxiety reduction, the need to be seen, and risk avoidance
- Why Robin Dunbar’s research on gossip reframes venting as something ancient and human, not just bad behavior
- Why the advice to just talk to them directly almost always gets ignored and what to say instead
- The one question to ask when someone pulls you into their conflict that actually helps them move
- Three concrete things managers can do to become someone people don’t have to vent around
CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Opening hook and introduction to triangulation
01:20 Murray Bowen and family systems theory: why the triangle is more stable than a two-person relationship under stress
02:24 How triangulation shows up at work: managers, HR, and the desk-side vent
03:00 Why the pattern feels good: anxiety reduction and Robin Dunbar on gossip as social bonding
04:47 Why “just talk to them directly” almost never works: you are asking someone to give up something that is working
05:45 Why the pattern never resolves the conflict: relief is real but temporary, and the same tension resurfaces
06:30 The third driver nobody names: risk avoidance and the real cost of going direct
07:50 The Maya story: a year of Friday coffee venting, one question, and one sentence that shifted everything
11:30 What to do when you are the third point in someone else’s conflict
11:47 Three concrete things managers can do right now
13:30 The bottom line: conflict avoided is conflict postponed
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