Story Deep Dive Podcast
Story Deep Dive Podcast
Podcast Description
Join editor and USA Today bestselling author Dana Pittman and developmental editor Rachel Arsenault for a weekly deep dive into great novels. storydeepdive.substack.com
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
The show emphasizes a range of topics within literature, focusing primarily on plot structure, character development, and writing techniques. Examples include their episode deep dives into the character journey in Ninth House by Leigh Bardugo and the dynamics of humor in Things We Never Got Over. Additionally, they explore how themes like power, community, and emotional healing are presented across genres.

Join editor and USA Today bestselling author Dana Pittman and developmental editor Rachel Arsenault for a weekly deep dive into great novels.
Welcome to Story Deep Dive!
In this episode, Rachel and Dana kick off a three-part exploration of Twisted Love by Ana Huang, setting the stage for plot, character, and editor takeaways in the coming weeks.
Whether you’re a writer, editor, or story-obsessed reader, you’ll walk away with insights on balancing contemporary and dark-romance elements, using tropes + universal fantasies to hook readers, and structuring nested plots so the main love story always leads.
You can also watch the video version of this podcast on YouTube!
Estimate Timestamps
00:00 – Welcome & What’s Coming
Rachel and Dana introduce the mini-series on Twisted Love, outline the three-episode arc (plot → character → editor takeaways), and set the tone for craft-first analysis—with a healthy dose of laughter.
Notable quote: “We discuss books not as readers but as writers.”
04:30 – Danja Tales Update: The Virtual Retreat (and why Dana says ‘the pannie’)
Dana shares details about her multi-day, end-of-year virtual retreat—equal parts reflection, future-casting, and hands-on creative sessions. The “pannie” moniker (for platform-friendly monetization) becomes an in-joke that sticks. The big takeaway: plan in November, let it marinate in December.
12:30 – Story Cypher: Second-Draft Season
Rachel recaps the Academy workflow: outline → 30-day first draft → a breather module to analyze and plan → November haul for Draft Two. The focus is teaching writers to wear the right hat at the right time (drafting vs. editing vs. plotting) and demystifying the hard parts of finishing.
23:45 – The “Aunt Dana” Bonus: Print Your Manuscript
Dana champions a morale-boosting milestone: print and spiral-bind the manuscript (double-spaced, one-sided, 1″ margins, title page). Holding the work matters—and handwritten margins supercharge revision. Rachel plans to add Dana’s tutorial to Academy resources.
Notable quote: “Hold your manuscript in your hands. There’s nothing like it.”
34:10 – Book Summary & Why It Works
Dana’s summary frames the book as a steamy, emotionally charged dark-contemporary: opposites, family secrets, obsession, and a love powerful enough to crack lifelong armor. Expect grumpy/sunshine, brother’s best friend, good-girl/bad-boy, and forbidden attraction—delivered with psychological depth.
37:00 – The Game Plan: What We’ll Analyze
Key themes for the series:
Plot/Character lockstep: transformation drives escalation.
Tropes + Universal Fantasies: why this novel is bingeable and marketable.
Dark elements with contemporary packaging: traction for a wider audience.
Dual transformation & redemption: morally gray hero, meaningful healing.
Nesting plots: subplots serve the primary love story and resolve in the right order.
41:10 – Content Warnings & Reader Expectations
A clear CW segment: explicit sex and kink, trauma themes, and moments of violence. For romance newcomers, Rachel suggests skipping ahead during scenes that don’t fit your comfort level and checking trigger-warning databases. The goal is informed, safe reading.
45:30 – What Makes a Romance ‘Dark’?
Dana frames dark romance as a spectrum. Twisted Love remains grounded in contemporary, but pulls levers like traumatic backstory, taboo intimacy, and revenge to deepen stakes. Pros: bigger emotional range, powerful transformations. Cons: possible reader alienation without clear signals and intention.
56:10 – Character Design: Sunshine with Scars vs. Controlled Dominance
Alex’s loss-and-revenge engine meets Ava’s quiet strength and optimism. Their opposite wounds create potent chemistry and genuine healing arcs—the story’s heart. The “everyday” frame (birthday cakes and rainstorms) keeps the wildest moments emotionally legible.
1:03:40 – Universal Fantasies & Trope Alchemy
Drawing on T. Taylor’s Seven Figure Fiction, Dana maps universal fantasies (chosen, protected, seen/desired) onto the book’s tropes. This blend explains the title’s long-tail virality: it’s emotionally addictive and easy to market.
1:14:15 – Plot Nesting: Setups, Payoffs, and Reader Trust
Rachel shows how Huang sets contemporary first, then layers early signals of kink/violence/revenge. As intensity rises, dark subplots resolve before the primary romantic payoff, so readers never lose the main thread. This ordering is why the climax feels shocking but earned.
1:22:40 – Dual Transformation & Redemption
Both MCs transform; Alex even gets a redemption arc while staying morally gray. Huang escalates conflict without repetition, pacing toward a climax that tests—and proves—change.
1:27:30 – Spice Check (a.k.a. Furniture Moving)
Comic relief: Rachel recounts listening to the first explicit scene in public and wanting to leave her own ears. Dana—unmoved and amused—calls it “normal steamy.” Friendship shenanigans ensue.
1:33:20 – Year-End Context & Why Study This Book Now
The hosts note this is their final book pick of 2025, with December specials ahead and 2026 planning underway. They invite title suggestions and argue that, even outside romance, this novel is a clean model for studying transformation arcs.
1:39:10 – Lessons for Any Genre
If you’re writing non-romance, borrow the clarity: wound → tests → setback → integrated return. Consider whether you need a romance subplot—or a deeper personal arc that proves your protagonist learned the lesson.
1:46:00 – Outro
Housekeeping: like, subscribe, rate/review, and comment with first impressions (and whether your eyebrows survived). Next week: the plot deep dive.
About Twisted Love
He has a heart of ice…but for her, he’d burn the world.
Alex Volkov is a devil blessed with the face of an angel and cursed with a past he can’t escape.
Driven by a tragedy that has haunted him for most of his life, his ruthless pursuits for success and vengeance leave little room for matters of the heart.
But when he’s forced to look after his best friend’s sister, he starts to feel something in his chest:
A crack.
A melt.
A fire that could end his world as he knew it.
***
Ava Chen is a free spirit trapped by nightmares of a childhood she can’t remember.
But despite her broken past, she’s never stopped seeing the beauty in the world…including the heart beneath the icy exterior of a man she shouldn’t want.
Her brother’s best friend.
Her neighbor.
Her savior and her downfall.
Theirs is a love that was never supposed to happen—but when it does, it unleashes secrets that could destroy them both…and everything they hold dear.
Where to Find the Book
Twisted Love by Ana Huang is available in several formats. It’s also widely available in libraries and online retailers. Details on her website.
Next Episode:
Next week, Rachel and Dana dissect the plot of Twisted Love: setups, escalations, midpoint turns, the breakup/all-is-lost mechanics, and why the ordering of payoffs makes the climax land.
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