The Pursuit of Beauty with Matthew Wilkinson

The Pursuit of Beauty with Matthew Wilkinson
Podcast Description
We explore topics such as classical music, Orthodox chant, Bach, Messiaen, architecture, symbolism, the philosophy of mind, aesthetics, and the general pursuit of Beauty.
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Focuses on classical music, Orthodox chant, and aesthetics, with specific episodes covering topics like the influence of Bach on modern music, the significance of symbolism in architecture, and insights into the philosophy of mind. The show often intertwines these themes with personal experiences of beauty in daily life.

We explore topics such as classical music, Orthodox chant, Bach, Messiaen, architecture, symbolism, the philosophy of mind, aesthetics, and the general pursuit of Beauty.
In this deep and engaging interview, filmmaker Josh David Jordan joins Matthew Wilkinson to explore the inspiration, philosophy, and cinematic influences behind his latest project, El Tonto Por Cristo. From Tarkovsky’s meditative pacing to the spiritual starkness of Robert Bresson, Jordan opens up about his creative process, the challenges of low-budget filmmaking, and the delicate balance between art, audience, and authenticity. The conversation covers everything from editing heartbreaks to the importance of restraint in storytelling, as well as the legacy of great directors like Wim Wenders, Béla Tarr, and the Coen Brothers.
The two also dive into broader artistic questions—what makes great cinema, how to avoid chasing novelty for its own sake, and why true art often finds its audience years later. Jordan reflects on the tension between humility and confidence, the value of patience in a fast-paced digital age, and how his Orthodox Christian faith informs his vision as a filmmaker. Whether you're a cinephile, a student of filmmaking, or simply interested in spiritual cinema and the fool-for-Christ tradition, this conversation offers a rare look into the heart of a director creating boldly outside the Hollywood mold.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Filmmaking and Influences
07:22 The Role of Editing in Film
13:33 The Importance of Patience in Art
19:26 The Evolution of Acting and Performance
25:22 The Impact of Technology on Creativity
31:15 The Legacy of Art and Its Reception
42:02 The Impact of Art on Family and Community
47:45 The Balance of Humility and Confidence
53:13 Influences in Filmmaking: Directors and Philosophies
01:13:04 The Balance of Art and Authenticity
01:18:05 The Impact of Iconic Cinema
01:24:47 The Emotional Resonance of Cinema
01:31:16 Tarkovsky's Legacy and Influence
01:37:30 The Importance of Mystery in Storytelling
01:44:17 The Fine Line of Comedy and Drama
01:52:06 Balancing Creativity and Mental Health
01:57:25 The Impact of Iconic Directors
02:03:24 The Role of Entertainment in Cinema
02:14:33 Intentionality in Filmmaking
02:19:41 Literary Influences and Symbolism
02:25:40 Cultural Reception and Audience Response
02:41:32 Black and White Aesthetic Choices

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