In this episode of Break in Case of Emergency, hosts Erin Blondeau and Emiko Newman speak with Geoff Dembicki, global managing editor of DeSmog, to discuss the intricate connections between conservative politics, corporate lobbying, and climate denialism. 

The conversation explores the mapping of Pierre Poilievre’s inner circle, the influence of lobbyists on climate policy and insights from Jordan Peterson’s ARC conference, where right-wing activists strategized against climate action and what they deem “woke” ideology. Dembicki emphasizes the importance of grassroots movements and the need for a united front in countering the climate counter movement, while also highlighting the role of media in shaping public perception.

This episode aired on April 19 2025.

Articles/podcasts mentioned in this episode:

• Poilievre Mapped: His Inner Circle of Lobbyists and Right-wing Activists (Geoff Dembicki, DeSmog, March 25)
• How Jordan Peterson Became a Global Anti-Net Zero Power Broker (Geoff Dembicki, DeSmog, March 24)
• The Takeover: Shock and Awe – Canada’s National Observer (April 7)
• The Takeover: Jordan Peterson Power Broker – Canada’s National Observer (April 9)
• The Takeover: Get Rid of it All – Canada’s National Observer (April 15)

Credits: Produced by Doug Hamilton-Evans, Emiko Newman, and Erin Blondeau. Hosted by Erin Blondeau and Emiko Newman. Featuring Geoff Dembicki. Music by Anjali Appadurai. Audio editing by Blue Light Studios. Artwork by Geoff Smith.