The PERE Podcast
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The PERE podcast is a weekly discussion between members of our senior editorial team providing you with analysis-led commentary about the biggest events in private real estate capital markets around the world. Our discussion spans formation, strategy and deployment and draws from the ongoing coverage of PERE, PERE Credit and PERE Deals.
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The PERE Podcast features a weekly discussion between members of our senior editorial team spanning formation, strategy and deployment, and regularly draws from the ongoing coverage of PERE, as well as affiliate titles PERE Credit and PERE Deals. We also occasionally host sponsored interviews providing analysis-led commentary about the biggest events in private real estate capital markets around the world. Visit perenews.com, peredeals.com and perecredit.com for more.
The launch of the inaugural PERE Credit 100 ranking marks a defining moment for real estate private credit, reflecting both the sector’s sustained growth and its evolving role within institutional investor portfolios.
To mark the milestone, PERE Credit hosted a launch breakfast last week at New York’s One Vanderbilt, bringing together leading market participants from across the industry. Senior lending and investor relations professionals took part in a panel moderated by Daniel Cunningham, PERE Credit’s Europe editor.
On this episode of The PERE Podcast, host McKenna Leavens is joined by Cunningham and Samantha Rowan, editor of PERE Credit, to unpack the key takeaways from the event and explore where the private real estate credit market is heading next.
Later in the episode, partner and head of real estate credit at KKR, Matt Salem, speaks to what he is hearing from his desk. The PERE Podcast has been granted permission to publish this exclusive excerpt from an off-the-record panel.
The data underscores the sector’s momentum. The top 50 managers in the ranking raised $304.7 billion over the past five years, an 18 percent increase compared to the prior year’s cumulative total across the same base period. Yet, as Cunningham notes, the story behind the numbers is more complex than it first appears. While capital continues to flow into the sector broadly, real estate credit still lacks a clearly defined allocation within institutional portfolios, leaving it in a somewhat ambiguous position between asset classes like real estate equity and corporate credit.
Looking ahead, the opportunity set for real estate credit appears compelling, supported by reset valuations and a significant wave of refinancing activity. However, uncertainty around interest rates, regulatory pressures and broader technological disruption continues to cloud the outlook.
As PERE Credit expands its global footprint, the Credit 100 ranking offers a timely benchmark for a sector that is not only scaling, but still in the process of defining its role within the broader investment landscape.

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