The PERE Podcast
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The PERE podcast is a weekly discussion between members of our senior editorial team providing you with analysis-led commentary about the biggest events in private real estate capital markets around the world. Our discussion spans formation, strategy and deployment and draws from the ongoing coverage of PERE, PERE Credit and PERE Deals.
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The podcast covers various topics including market trends, strategic development, and investment opportunities, with episodes such as 'Next Contenders: Managers set to make big marks in the new cycle' highlighting emerging firms in real estate as well as in-depth discussions on KKR's new real assets business.

The PERE Podcast features a weekly discussion between members of our senior editorial team spanning formation, strategy and deployment, and regularly draws from the ongoing coverage of PERE, as well as affiliate titles PERE Credit and PERE Deals. We also occasionally host sponsored interviews providing analysis-led commentary about the biggest events in private real estate capital markets around the world. Visit perenews.com, peredeals.com and perecredit.com for more.
In the second keynote interview from PERE’s annual Europe Forum in London, BlackRock chief investment strategist Wei Li sat down with PERE editor-in-chief Jonathan Brasse to unpack where private real estate stands relative to other assets in institutional portfolios, and where it’s headed.
Few voices command as wide a view of the private markets universe as Li’s. Her calls, often made on behalf of the world’s largest asset manager, help shape the guidance institutional investors rely on to build and manage portfolios across numerous asset classes. That made her the natural choice to weigh in on where real estate sits relative to everything else competing for institutional capital.
This episode carries that conversation in full. Li discusses the strain that AI-driven spending is placing on other less-exposed areas of the market, a dynamic she describes as producing real “excruciation,” compounded by political friction and unfavorable press coverage of the burgeoning data center market. She also makes the case that traditional asset class labels matter less than they used to, arguing investors should look past broad categories like “real estate” and dig deeper into the specific themes underpinning a particular investment or exposure.
As for where property fits into that framework, Li says the asset class earns its place when it intersects with major structural trends or delivers cashflow that diversifies investors away from the market’s dominant storylines.
This is the second half of a two-part keynote series recorded at PERE Europe. Listen here for the first installment, featuring Norges Bank Investment Management’s Alex Knapp.

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