The Lighting Trade School Podcast
The Lighting Trade School Podcast
Podcast Description
If you own an outdoor service business and want to add landscape lighting—or already run a lighting company and want to scale—this podcast is for you.
Join The 3 Lighting Amigos (Nate Mullen, Captain Matt, Shane Duffy) as we dive deep into the world of landscape lighting design, installation, marketing, and business growth. Featuring the Godfather of Landscape Lighting and lighting business owners pulling in over $1 million in revenue annually, we bring 50+ years of combined experience to the table.
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The podcast emphasizes key aspects of landscape lighting, including essential beam spreads and wattages, placement techniques, and common pitfalls to avoid, such as glare in lighting jobs. Specific episodes will cover topics like the 7 deadly sins of lighting and tips for maximizing revenue in outdoor lighting careers, providing practical insights for listeners.

If you own an outdoor service business and want to add landscape lighting—or already run a lighting company and want to scale—this podcast is for you.
Join The 3 Lighting Amigos (Nate Mullen, Captain Matt, Shane Duffy) as we dive deep into the world of landscape lighting design, installation, marketing, and business growth. Featuring the Godfather of Landscape Lighting and lighting business owners pulling in over $1 million in revenue annually, we bring 50+ years of combined experience to the table.
Everybody’s screaming “Use AI! Use AI!”…until AI puts a landmine inside your proposal.
In this episode of The Lighting Trade School Podcast, Shane (Glo Daddy) breaks down the real-world story of how an AI-generated example image turned into a $16,000 problem on a city project, even though the written scope didn’t include the item.
We get into the brutal truth about municipalities, lawyers, and why what’s attached can matter as much as what’s written. Then Nate goes full construction-war-story mode and lays out how to protect yourself on big projects: scope of work discipline, submittals, exclusions, change orders (even $0 ones), draw schedules, and why “being nice” gets expensive.
If you’ve ever done “one extra thing” to be helpful…or sent a visual to make the client feel confident…this episode is your warning shot.
In this episode:
How a single AI-generated detail created a $16,000 liability
Why cities interpret documents like a courtroom, not a jobsite
The change order mistake that kills your leverage (even when you “helped” them)
Scope of work vs. visuals: what has to be crystal clear
Draw schedules and payment leverage (stop letting clients hold the cards)
Why new construction scheduling chaos can wreck margins fast
Ready to Start or Grow Your Landscape Lighting Business?
🔹 Learn design, sales, and installation at:https://www.lightingtradeschool.com/
🔹 Buy elite fixtures from:https://lifetimelightingsystems.com/
🔹 Join The Illuminati Lounge Club — $47/mo weekly group calls with the 3 Lighting Amigos:https://www.lightingtradeschool.com/illuminati-lounge-club
🔹 Apply for 1-on-1 mentoring with Captain Matt:https://www.captainmattoutdoors.com/captains-crew
🔹 Start your own lighting biz as a GloGeek:https://glogeeksgang.com/
🔥 50 lighting assassins. That’s it. The elite rise, everyone else is background noise. You can chase jobs…or become the one others chase. Which are you?

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