In this episode of The Curiosity Current, host Stephanie is joined by Andrew Kawalek, Senior Director of Global Sales at AYTM, for a conversation with J. Walker Smith, Knowledge Lead for Strategy and Consulting at Kantar. After decades of guiding brands through cultural and technological change, Walker has learned that the fundamentals of marketing rarely shift. While AI, automation, and analytics dominate today’s conversations, he reminds us that real progress comes from mastering constants: understanding people, respecting time, and crafting stories that stick. Walker reframes AI as being in its first phase, making old processes faster rather than transforming how consumers shop or decide. For now, AI helps marketers execute the basics more efficiently while freeing them to think more deeply. He argues that the true competitive advantage lies in this thinking time, space to anticipate what’s next instead of reacting to every new tool. From pricing strategy to agile research, Walker explains how price functions as narrative, influencing perception far beyond transaction. He warns that cutting prices can cheapen brand meaning just as easily as overpricing can stretch credibility. And when it comes to storytelling, he urges leaders to focus on “one thing,” the single insight, slide, or sentence the audience will remember. Looking ahead, he predicts a return to analog. As digital saturates life, people will crave more human, tangible experiences. The future of digital, he says, “is analog.” For marketers and researchers alike, that means pairing data with empathy, structure with spontaneity, and automation with imagination.

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