The GovMaker Podcast
The GovMaker Podcast
Podcast Description
GovMaker advances open government theory and practice, public sector and social innovation in New Brunswick and beyond. Join our co-hosts for season 2, Nick Scott and Jason Pearman, as they engage with leaders who have received significant mandates to reform and transform public services. Each episode is filled with inspiring stories and insights to help transform public services in a meaningful way.
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Content Themes
The podcast explores themes of public service reform, social innovation, and effective governance, with episodes addressing topics like the leadership journey of Premier Susan Holt, the conceptual 'Ministry of Unbounded Affairs,' and systemic failures in public service as highlighted by Kelly Lamrock. Specific episodes delve into building an innovative government environment, leveraging collaboration across sectors, and the essential role of empathy and resilience in leadership.

The GovMaker Podcast is an interview series that uncovers the how of public sector innovation. Join co-hosts Nick Scott and Jason Pearman as they engage with leaders who have been entrusted with significant mandates to reform and transform public services.
In a field crowded with frameworks and toolkits, the podcast focuses on the craft required to deliver change inside government.
Each episode features inspiring stories and practical insights that surface the patterns, skills, and strategies that enable meaningful transformation in public services.
If you are a practitioner, leader, or funder passionate about achieving better outcomes through government, this podcast is your guide.
In this first interview of Season 3, Sarah Doyle reflects on her journey into the public sector and the insights she’s gained from working across government, as well as from her time at the UCL Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose and MaRS Discovery District.
We explore what mission-oriented government looks like beyond the theory: how public institutions build the capacity to work across silos, collaborate with actors outside government, and operate in fast-moving, interconnected environments.
Sarah shares concrete examples of where mission-oriented approaches have taken root, what’s helped them succeed, and what continues to get in the way.
The conversation also turns to storytelling as a core capability that shapes public understanding, influences what governments see as possible, and expands the range of policy and program options on the table.

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