Darren Mulligan of We Are Messengers has spent years touring, making records, and watching God use his music around the world. But these days, Darren says he’s chasing something a lot less flashy: steadiness.

On this episode of Rewrite, Darren sits down with Jonathan to talk about We Are Messengers’ new album, Halfway Home, and what Jesus has been teaching him in the middle years of life. He opens up about the cost his career has had on his marriage and family, letting go of the need to achieve, and learning that following Jesus doesn’t always look dramatic. Sometimes, it looks like becoming a steady husband, dad, friend, and follower of Christ.

Darren also gets talks honestly about Christian music, success, ego, character, and the difference between doing something for Jesus and actually becoming more like Him. After years of highs and lows, he says what he wants now is pretty simple: real relationships, real songs, and the real Jesus.

If you’ve ever felt the pressure to do something big for God, Darren’s story is a beautiful look at what can happen when you stop chasing being seen and discover Jesus in an ordinary, faithful life.