Sacred Legions: A Podcast for Secular Saints
Sacred Legions: A Podcast for Secular Saints
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Sacred Legions interview secular saints, a term coined by author Kurt Vonnegut for people performing decently in an indecent world. Hosted by Max Goller and Pat LaMarche, we find out what inspired our guests in their saintly journey and ask them to contribute volunteer and self-care resources for our audience that they will be able to find on our website, sacredlegions.org. As Kurt said, ""No damn cat and no damn cradle...There is only one rule I know of babies—goddamn it, you've got to be kind!"
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The podcast covers themes such as human rights, social justice, global stewardship, and volunteerism, with episodes featuring discussions on mentorship in support of the unhoused, the personal stories of formerly incarcerated advocates, and community responses to crises, exemplified by the inspiring actions of residents during September 11th in Gander.

Sacred Legions interview secular saints, a term coined by author Kurt Vonnegut for people performing decently in an indecent world. Hosted by Max Goller and Pat LaMarche, we find out what inspired our guests in their saintly journey and ask them to contribute volunteer and self-care resources for our audience that they will be able to find on our website, sacredlegions.org. As Kurt said, “”No damn cat and no damn cradle…There is only one rule I know of babies—goddamn it, you’ve got to be kind!”
In this episode of Sacred Legions, hosts Max Goller and Pat LaMarche interview Mike Draper, the founder of Raygun, a unique t-shirt company based in Des Moines. Draper shares his journey from selling t-shirts on college campuses to establishing a successful brand known for its positive messaging and community engagement. The conversation delves into the importance of authenticity in business, the challenges of corporate culture, and the value of creativity and innovation. Draper emphasizes the significance of fair labor practices and the impact of building a supportive community around a brand. Throughout the discussion, he reflects on personal experiences and the lessons learned along the way, ultimately highlighting the importance of living decently in an indecent time.

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