The Real Deal Landman Show
The Real Deal Landman Show
Podcast Description
The Real Deal Landman Show pulls back the curtain on the fascinating world of land and energy professionals, offering an authentic counterpoint to Hollywood's dramatized version. Join veteran landmen Jerris Johnson and Drew Hopkins as they serve up hilarious real-world stories, expert insights, and candid conversations with industry legends. From oil fields to renewable energy projects, discover the true adventures, challenges, and triumphs of the professionals who secure America's energy future.
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
The podcast focuses on topics surrounding land management, the energy sector, and the personal experiences of industry professionals. Key episodes include discussions on cultural differences in land ownership between the U.S. and Canada, evolving energy landscapes, and the significance of community engagement. For instance, Episode 12 explores Canadian land management, while Episode 11 emphasizes safety within the energy sector.
The Real Deal Landman Show is a podcast for landmen, land professionals, and anyone curious about how energy deals get done. Hosts Jerris Johnson and Drew Hopkins talk with land, legal, and energy leaders about their careers, their best field stories, and the deals behind American energy.
Topics include oil and gas leasing, mineral and royalty ownership, title, surface and rights-of-way, acquisitions and divestitures, renewables, data centers and power, and how AI is changing land work. Real stories from the people who do the job, without the Hollywood drama.
Watch the video version on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RealDealLandman
Website: https://realdeallandman.com
Andrew Keck of Paloma Resources once moved a landowner’s house to make room for a drill-site road. He also took a Cadillac Escalade as part of a New Mexico acreage deal.
Drew and Jerris open with homemade show t-shirts and a call for production and marketing help. Andrew, Senior Vice President and General Legal Counsel at Paloma Resources in Houston, started as a broker with Vernon Smith and Dudley, then worked surface and rights-of-way for Anadarko in Pennsylvania and Hess in Ohio. Since 2015 he has helped Paloma build multiple private equity-backed companies from zero acres. He also covers the sale of Paloma Permian, how he uses AI every day, and what technology still can’t replace in land work.
In this episode:
• How a private equity operator builds acreage from nothing, sells it, and starts again
• Why Pennsylvania and Ohio landowners reacted so differently to drilling
• The road deal that moved a family’s house, and the acreage trade that came with an Escalade
• Where AI already saves time in due diligence and land admin, and where title judgment still needs people
• Career advice for new landmen as the industry faces a generational gap
Chapters:
00:00 Custom T-Shirts, Office Studio Upgrades & RDLS Hiring Call
05:35 Introducing Andrew Keck: UCO Bronchos to Tulsa Law School
08:26 Early Broker Days: Vernon Smith, Dudley Land & The Marcellus Shift
10:44 Anadarko, Rig Food & Surface Rights in Pennsylvania vs. Ohio Utica
15:36 Joining Paloma Resources & The Private Equity Build-and-Sell Model
23:30 Aptitudes for PE vs. Corporate Land & Advice for New Landmen
29:24 Landowner Dogs: Winning Friends with Bacon & Escaping in the F-150 Bed
32:41 Out-of-the-Box Deals: Moving a House & The 1,100-HP Escalade
38:10 Selling Paloma Permian, Due Diligence & Launching Paloma Permian 2
41:56 Implementing AI in Land Admin, Legal Contracts & Document Scrubbing
44:41 Why Relationships & Title Subjectivity Can’t Be Replaced
48:22 Open Offer for New Mexico Acreage & Show Wrap-Up
Links:
Paloma Resources: https://www.palomaresources.com/
Andrew Keck on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-keck-jd/
Have acreage in New Mexico? Andrew’s contact information is on the Paloma website above.
The Real Deal Landman Show is hosted by Jerris Johnson and Drew Hopkins.
Watch the video version on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RealDealLandman
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