The Butcher Shop
The Butcher Shop
Podcast Description
Raw conversations with master angler tiers who craft and fish the deadliest streamers in the game. Each episode dissects signature patterns and complete systems for hunting trophy brown trout, musky, pike and bass. No recipes - just proven tactics from predator specialists who consistently deliver the goods.
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Content Themes
The podcast centers on topics related to fly fishing, specifically dissecting techniques for crafting and using effective streamer patterns for hunting trophy fish such as brown trout, musky, pike, and bass. Episodes will explore signature patterns and comprehensive systems without including recipes, emphasizing proven tactics from accomplished predator specialists.

Raw conversations with master angler tiers who craft and fish the deadliest streamers in the game. Each episode dissects signature patterns and complete systems for hunting trophy brown trout, musky, pike and bass. No recipes – just proven tactics from predator specialists who consistently deliver the goods.
Episode Overview
On this episode of The Butcher Shop fly fishing podcast, host Marvin Cash welcomes back Kirk Klingensmith for Part Two of their Science of Streamers conversation, this time digging into the physics behind swim flies and the Game Changer platform. Klingensmith brings an engineer’s eye to the vise, breaking down why doubling a fly’s length doesn’t mean doubling its diameter and why that distinction matters more than most tiers realize.
The conversation opens with the geometry of drag: length scales linearly, but diameter drives drag by the square, so a modest increase in diameter has an outsized effect on a fly’s action. From there, Klingensmith and Cash trace how turbulence created at the front of a swim fly, whether from a deer hair lip, a cupped popper head or simply a bulky front-loaded profile, sets up the unstable eddy currents that make the rear of the fly undulate on the retrieve. They cover material choices (marabou, rabbit, craft fur, Flashabou) that add movement, the role of shank engineering and segmentation in producing a serpentine swim, and how stinger hook placement and connection material (wire, gel-spun, mono) change both the fly’s action and its hookup rate on short-striking fish. A highlight of the episode is Klingensmith’s breakdown of Brian Shumaker’s Shimmering Minnow and the “hover and twitch” presentation he uses on pressured smallmouth bass in warm summer water.
Key Takeaways
- How to scale a streamer’s diameter separately from its length, since drag increases geometrically with diameter while length scales in linear proportion
- Why turbulence-inducing elements like a deer hair lip, a cupped popper head or an oversized front profile make a swim fly kick and undulate on the retrieve instead of just sinking straight
- When to fish a swim fly on a dead-stop hover rather than a fast retrieve, particularly for pressured smallmouth bass in warm summer water
- How to use material mass and segment placement to dial in a tighter or more gradual S-curve swimming action on an articulated fly
- Why adding a stinger hook can improve hookups on short-striking predatory fish while also changing how much mass and crash the tail of the fly carries
- How fly designers use a “chassis” mindset, treating patterns like the Clouser Minnow or Game Changer as adaptable platforms rather than fixed recipes
Techniques & Gear Covered
Klingensmith explains swim fly action as a function of engineered turbulence: a drag-inducing front end (a lip, a cupped head or simply a bulky profile) creates unstable eddy currents that the rear of the fly follows, producing the swimming motion, while a laminar (streamlined) front would produce no swim at all. He details how progressively smaller shanks toward the tail increase segmentation and produce a more serpentine undulation, and how adding mass to those rear segments dampens the action into a slower, more gradual S-curve. On stinger hook rigging, he walks through connection options (wire, gel-spun, mono) and how hook placement and gauge affect both the fly’s swim and its hook-up percentage on fish that nip at the tail rather than eating the head. Named patterns discussed include the Game Changer platform and two of its variants, the Jerk Changer and the Feather Changer, along with the Drunk & Disorderly, Brian Shumaker’s Shimmering Minnow, the Clouser Minnow, Bob Popovics’ Beast Fleye and Chris Walker’s Kreelex-variant, a stinger-hook trout streamer designed for brown trout that key on the tail.
FAQ / Key Questions Answered
Why don’t fly proportions scale linearly when you size up a streamer pattern?
Because drag from a cylindrical or spherical shape increases geometrically with diameter while length only scales linearly. Klingensmith explains that it’s reasonable to scale a fly’s length proportionally when going from, say, four inches to six inches, but the diameter should only be increased modestly, not scaled by the same ratio, or the fly’s action and drag profile will be thrown off.
What makes a swim fly like the Game Changer move with a swimming action instead of just sinking?
The action comes from turbulence engineered into the front of the fly. A lip, a cupped popper head or simply a bulky, non-streamlined front end creates a drag source that generates unstable eddy currents, and the rest of the fly follows those currents on the retrieve. A streamlined, laminar-flow front would not produce this swimming motion.
How does adding a stinger hook affect a swim fly’s action and hookup rate?
It depends heavily on how the shank-to-stinger connection is built, whether with wire, gel-spun line or mono, and whether the hook is left free or incorporated into the tail material. Stinger hooks are especially effective on predatory fish that nip at a fly’s tail rather than striking the head, and shorter-shank designs like octopus hooks tend to hold hooked fish more securely than long-shank hooks.
What is the “hover and twitch” technique Kirk Klingensmith uses for pressured smallmouth?
Rather than burning the fly back with a fast retrieve, Klingensmith lays the Shimmering Minnow within six inches of structure and lets it twitch and suspend with almost no forward motion, letting subtle microcurrent movement do the work. He believes this near-motionless presentation gives pressured smallmouth, especially in warm water, something they haven’t already learned to refuse.
How can fly tiers control the tightness of a swim fly’s S-curve swimming action?
By adjusting material mass in the segments behind the head. Lighter segments produce a tighter, more pronounced undulation, while adding more mass and gradually stepping it down through the rear segments dampens the action into a slower, more gradual S-curve.
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Helpful Episode Chapters
00:00 Introduction
02:51 Scaling Fly Geometry
05:35 How Swim Flies Swim
11:28 Paused Retrieves Matter Most
16:26 Stinger Hooks and Fly Action
21:12 Tuning Line and Tippet
23:14 Mentoring the Next Generation

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