IONS by Peak Energy
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Hosted by Peak Energy Co-founder and Chief Commercial Officer, Cam Dales, IONS will bring you energetic and informative conversations across a wide range of topics with industry thought leaders from the world of energy storage and renewable energy. Episodes monthly starting in 2025!
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The podcast focuses on a variety of themes within the energy sector, including the evolution of energy storage, challenges of domestic production, and financing strategies, with specific episode examples discussing the impact of system integrators and the significance of domestic cell manufacturing.

Hosted by Peak Energy Co-founder and Chief Commercial Officer, Cam Dales, IONS will bring you energetic and informative conversations across a wide range of topics with industry thought leaders from the world of energy storage and renewable energy.
In this session of IONS, Cam is joined by Dr. Adrian Yao, founder of Lithium-ion cell development company EnPower and STEER, Stanford's center for energy feasibility research. Cam and Adrian have both been in the battery space for years, and their experience across chemistries, academia, and industry informs a conversation that ranges from material development to project economics and the approach needed to commercialize batteries in the west: technological pragmatism.
For the first time, Cam and Adrian discuss STEER's 2025 study of sodium-ion cell cost-down curves and break down STEER's initial pessimism on sodium-ion cell economics against the movement of CATL, Peak, and GM into project deployments built on an underdog chemistry.
Cam and Adrian find that the industry's perspective has expanded, growing from a granular focus on low-cost materials and R&D to real assessments of system-level viability. Cam and Adrian describe this as a ”parallel journey” tracked over the last two years by academia and industry, driven by real-world concerns as energy storage projects take the grid by storm.
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📃 Read Dr. Yao’s thesis on energy storage development
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