In this episode, Ferrin sits down with Bill Casner to trace an incredible life built on horses—from a 15-year-old hustling for $1 gallops at Sunland Park to the highest levels of Thoroughbred racing.

Bill shares the gritty early days on the backside, a humbling attempt at riding races that gave him lifelong respect for jockeys, and how the racetrack became a “magical” place that shaped his whole future. At the heart of the conversation is legacy: the devastating loss of his daughter Karri, and the extraordinary story of Well Armed—the colt born on her birthday the following year—who overcame major injuries and became a Dubai World Cup champion through an unforgettable rehab journey.

It’s a powerful look at ambition, heartbreak, resilience, and how horses can carry us through everything—while inspiring Bill’s mission to give back through scholarships and opportunities for racetrack and farm families.