In this powerful and heartfelt conversation, Alan Lazaros and Kevin Palmieri, co-founders of Next Level University, join Sam to explore what it really means to pursue growth, success, and fulfillment without losing yourself in the process.

Both Alan and Kevin built their lives from moments of deep struggle — from depression and financial collapse to rebuilding through relentless self-awareness and consistency. Together, they’ve coached thousands of people worldwide to elevate their mindset, habits, and emotional intelligence while staying grounded in what truly matters.

In this episode, Sam dives deep with them into the paradox of ambition — how chasing achievement can either elevate or destroy us — and how self-belief, discipline, and humility become the antidote to burnout.

The conversation unfolds around three timeless themes: the psychology of personal transformation, the art of consistency, and the meaning of success beyond numbers.

To learn more, visit nextleveluniverse.com