Hard Turn
Hard Turn
Podcast Description
Hard Turn is the podcast that dives into life’s biggest decisions and transformative moments. Hosted by Kelly Koopmans and Mary Nam, this weekly show features compelling stories from guests who have navigated life-altering experiences like retirement, sobriety, health challenges, and career changes. Along the way, Kelly and Mary share relatable anecdotes, insightful advice, and personal reflections, offering listeners inspiring stories and meaningful conversations. Whether you’re facing a turning point or just curious about how others have tackled theirs, Hard Turn offers stories and insights you won’t want to miss. Join Kelly and Mary as they explore what it means to take life’s next Hard Turn.
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Content Themes
The podcast explores themes like retirement, career changes, sobriety, and building personal connections, with episodes such as 'Retirement with Connie' discussing life post-work, 'Career Pivots with Michelle' focusing on transitioning to non-profit work after cancer, and exploring adult friendships in 'Making New Friends with Emmely'.

Hard Turn is the podcast that dives into life’s biggest decisions and transformative moments. Hosted by Kelly Koopmans and Mary Nam, this weekly show features compelling stories from guests who have navigated life-altering experiences like retirement, sobriety, health challenges, and career changes. Along the way, Kelly and Mary share relatable anecdotes, insightful advice, and personal reflections, offering listeners inspiring stories and meaningful conversations. Whether you’re facing a turning point or just curious about how others have tackled theirs, Hard Turn offers stories and insights you won’t want to miss. Join Kelly and Mary as they explore what it means to take life’s next Hard Turn.
Kelly and Mary sit down with Seattle Police Chief Shon Barnes to explore the unexpected pivot that defined his career. Before leading a major police department, Barnes was a public school history teacher. He shares the powerful, heartbreaking story of a bright student who committed murder, revealing the moment he felt he “missed an opportunity to help.” He talks about a conversation with a School Resource Officer that put him on the path to law enforcement and the philosophy of community policing. Chief Barnes discusses the hard truth about work-life balance for high performers , the value of preparation as a cure for anxiety , and his philosophical approach to leadership, paying attention to the seeds, not the flowers.
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