You Never Know with Nicole Lee

You Never Know with Nicole Lee
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Welcome to You Never Know where we talk about life, career, change & the stories of people who have taken the unconventional road & embraced the unknown. Where we talk about things we don’t normally talk about with our families and sometimes even with our friends, especially here in Asia. After more than a decade in a top private bank and a transformational experience at a startup which changed my life, I am now rewriting my life story, walking into the unknown, and inspiring others to thrive in life. Thank you so much for your support, wherever you are in the world. It means a lot to me. - Nicole
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The podcast covers various themes such as career reinvention, generational dilemmas, and personal transformation. Highlights include discussions on the pressure faced by Gen Z regarding social media, as well as stories of professionals like Frank Koo who challenge traditional views of success and fulfillment, emphasizing purpose over pay.

Welcome to You Never Know where we talk about life, career, change & the stories of people who have taken the unconventional road & embraced the unknown. Where we talk about things we don’t normally talk about with our families and sometimes even with our friends, especially here in Asia. After more than a decade in a top private bank and a transformational experience at a startup which changed my life, I am now rewriting my life story, walking into the unknown, and inspiring others to thrive in life. Thank you so much for your support, wherever you are in the world. It means a lot to me. – Nicole

What if gold could pay you like rent, without you having to sell it?
In Episode 24, Eren Elvis Zekioglu returns to talk about one of the most important forces shaping the global economy—and one that powers how we live: commodities.
From oil and agriculture to gold, we explore how everything around us is ultimately a derivative of crude oil—and how this often-overlooked sector is entering a new chapter through tokenization.
We dive into why commodities are more relevant than ever, how tokenizing gold and other assets could open the door for investors to earn income without owning the entire asset, and how players in the supply chain can access alternative financing.
Eren also reflects on his calculative career path—from trading to hedge funds, to the world’s largest commodity trading houses like Glencore and Gunvor, co-founding the world’s first blockchain platform for post-oil trade settlements, VAKT, to founding his own venture, Kommoditize.
I hope this episode finds you exactly where you need it.
Chapters:
00:00 — Intro
00:56 — Why Commodities Power Everything
02:15 — From Hedge Funds To Glencore & Gunvor: A Culture Shock
03:55 — The Paper Problem in Commodities Trading
08:00 — Building Blockchain for Oil Traders
11:30 — Tokenizing Real-World Assets Explained
12:50 — How Gold Can Generate Income
16:30 — Alternative Financing Beyond Banks
22:15 — Funding the Commodities Supply Chain
23:55 — Can Investors Own a Slice of Oil, Ships, or Refineries?
26:30 — Lessons in Discipline, Macro Thinking, and Action
31:35 — Why Sporty Traders Are Less Corrupt
32:45 — The Mariah Carey of Commodities
33:05 — Advice for Young People Entering the Industry Follow me for real conversations on life, career, taking the unconventional road and embracing the unknowns.
This is part 2 of my conversation with Eren. If you’d like to watch part 1 of his journey from theatre to trading, tune in to episode 21.
Nicole
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Follow Eren Elvis Zekioglu on:
LinkedIn: https://sg.linkedin.com/in/erenzekioglu
Website: www.kommoditize.com
Follow Nicole Lee on:
LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/nicoleethisisme
Website: http://www.youneverknow.co/
Instagram: http://instagram.com/nicoleleethisisme
TikTok: http://tiktok.com/@nicoleleethisisme
Filmed at: Poddster Singapore
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