The Panel
The Panel
Podcast Description
When it comes to bootstrapping and building software, there's rarely one right answer. We want to dive into the nuance. In every episode, veteran founders Justin Jackson and Brian Casel bring together a panel of sharp minds from the indie tech world to tackle thorny topics – from pricing and product strategy to work-life balance. No gurus, no easy answers – just real conversations we'd normally have behind closed doors.
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Content Themes
The show dives into a variety of topics including SaaS marketing, the influence of AI on product development, and open source business models, with episodes like 'Is web development still a good career choice in 2025?' and 'SaaS predictions for 2025' exploring critical trends and challenges faced by tech entrepreneurs and developers.

When it comes to bootstrapping and building software, there’s rarely one right answer. We want to dive into the nuance. In every episode, veteran founders Justin Jackson, Brian Casel and Jordan Gal tackle thorny topics – from pricing and product strategy to work-life balance. No gurus, no easy answers – just real conversations we’d normally have behind closed doors.
If you’re trying to fix your funnel, where do you start? And how much of an impact do we think Fable is going to have on AI pricing?
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
03:27 Impact of AI and Market Dynamics
06:24 Taking Control of Your Funnel
17:12 The impact of Fable on AI Costs
26:04 SpaceX IPO and Betting on Space
42:56 Opportunities for SaaS Businesses in 2026 with Domain Expertise
01:07:36 Allowances for kids works best in with communism
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Links mentioned in this episode:
- Data School
- Kickbacks.ai – Get paid for waiting
- SpaceX IPO Prospectus
- Fable AI
- AI sandwich
- After Automation
- OpenAI Considers Drastic Price Cuts (WSJ)
- SpaceX stock jumps after record IPO, making Musk the first trillionaire
- SpaceX is asking for $1.75. That’s ridiculous (but I’m giving them money anyway)
- Andrew McCalip

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