The Panel
The Panel
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When it comes to bootstrapping and building software, there's rarely one right answer. We want to dive into the nuance. In every episode, veteran founders Justin Jackson and Brian Casel bring together a panel of sharp minds from the indie tech world to tackle thorny topics – from pricing and product strategy to work-life balance. No gurus, no easy answers – just real conversations we'd normally have behind closed doors.
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The show dives into a variety of topics including SaaS marketing, the influence of AI on product development, and open source business models, with episodes like 'Is web development still a good career choice in 2025?' and 'SaaS predictions for 2025' exploring critical trends and challenges faced by tech entrepreneurs and developers.
When it comes to bootstrapping and building software, there’s rarely one right answer. We want to dive into the nuance. In every episode, veteran founders Justin Jackson, Brian Casel and Jordan Gal tackle thorny topics – from pricing and product strategy to work-life balance. No gurus, no easy answers – just real conversations we’d normally have behind closed doors.
What happened to you in Mexico? Justin is back from his co-founder retreat with Jon on Holbox Island. He gets vulnerable about the drift that naturally happens in a remote co-founder relationship, the big conversations they’d been avoiding, and the realization that alignment isn’t a one-time thing (it requires constant investment!). Jordan and Brian weigh in on co-founder dynamics, decision-making in a 50/50 partnership, and why strategy has to belong to a key decision maker.
The conversation then spills into the “Mexican standoff” happening on teams as AI reshapes who does what and whether that’s something to fear (or lean into).
Timestamps:
- (00:06) – Introduction
- (01:47) – Justin and Jon’s founder retreat
- (06:44) – Using video as an example of how to communicate with cofounders
- (09:45) – It’s not a marriage, it’s a dictatorship
- (12:12) – What do goals look like for a company?
- (20:48) – Video is hard and heavy… should we do it?
- (24:22) – What Jordan’s done to help alignment on his team
- (29:46) – What about Jon’s side of the conversation?
- (39:46) – Navigating new work dynamics with the speed of AI
- (46:56) – There are smart developers resisting AI – why?
- (54:24) – A Mexican standoff on teams
- (01:06:47) – Company design and system design
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Links mentioned in this episode:
- Holbox Island
- Photos from co-founder retreat
- Article: The five stages of losing our craft
- Article: Will Claude Code ruin our team?
- Jack Dorsey lays off 931 workers
- Polsia – this weird AI driven SaaS making $2m! (You give it an idea, provide a budget/credit card, and it autonomously launches the business)
- More on Ben Cera, founder of Polsia
- The Amazing Money Machine book cover
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