The Panel
The Panel
Podcast Description
When it comes to bootstrapping and building software, there's rarely one right answer. We want to dive into the nuance. In every episode, veteran founders Justin Jackson and Brian Casel bring together a panel of sharp minds from the indie tech world to tackle thorny topics – from pricing and product strategy to work-life balance. No gurus, no easy answers – just real conversations we'd normally have behind closed doors.
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The show dives into a variety of topics including SaaS marketing, the influence of AI on product development, and open source business models, with episodes like 'Is web development still a good career choice in 2025?' and 'SaaS predictions for 2025' exploring critical trends and challenges faced by tech entrepreneurs and developers.

When it comes to bootstrapping and building software, there’s rarely one right answer. We want to dive into the nuance. In every episode, veteran founders Justin Jackson and Brian Casel tackle thorny topics – from pricing and product strategy to work-life balance. No gurus, no easy answers – just real conversations we’d normally have behind closed doors.
AI dev is changing rapidly, and… AI dev is rapidly changing how we build websites and apps. Brian and Justin wrestle with this new reality and discuss the different phases of a startup, how indies can cultivate brand loyalty, and when you should maybe do the opposite of what everyone else is doing.
Timestamps:
- (00:00) – What does Justin do all day?
- (00:14) – Welcome to The Panel
- (04:05) – The phases of startups
- (20:04) – AI coding might be moving away from spec driven development
- (27:52) – The future of products is shifting regularly
- (31:46) – Building a website dynamically with AI
- (46:41) – How much brand loyalty do we have in the age of AI?
- (01:13:45) – Singing the counter melody
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