The Panel

The Panel
Podcast Description
When it comes to bootstrapping and building software, there's rarely one right answer. We want to dive into the nuance. In every episode, veteran founders Justin Jackson and Brian Casel bring together a panel of sharp minds from the indie tech world to tackle thorny topics – from pricing and product strategy to work-life balance. No gurus, no easy answers – just real conversations we'd normally have behind closed doors.
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The show dives into a variety of topics including SaaS marketing, the influence of AI on product development, and open source business models, with episodes like 'Is web development still a good career choice in 2025?' and 'SaaS predictions for 2025' exploring critical trends and challenges faced by tech entrepreneurs and developers.

When it comes to bootstrapping and building software, there’s rarely one right answer. We want to dive into the nuance. In every episode, veteran founders Justin Jackson and Brian Casel tackle thorny topics – from pricing and product strategy to work-life balance. No gurus, no easy answers – just real conversations we’d normally have behind closed doors.
Brian is wondering: how do you manage a popular open source project? Justin went to Toronto and introduced his son to Adam Wathan, Wes Bos, Steve Schoger, and Caleb Porzio. Why does the same amount of effort produce wildly different results? And… is everyone getting tired of all this copycat content that’s optimized for algorithms?
Timestamps:
- (00:20) – Preview of what we’re going to talk about
- (02:11) – Builder Methods Pro and AgentOS
- (03:58) – The importance of human content in an age of algorithmic feeds
- (25:55) – Connecting with people in real life
- (33:52) – Zeroing in on Builder Methods revenue
- (48:25) – Managing an open source project in public
- (59:22) – The importance of enthusiasm in projects
- (01:12:21) – Effort and outcome
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Links mentioned in this episode
- Sam Sulek YouTube Channel
- Builder Methods Workshop
- Justin’s Toronto Hangout
- Marketing is a Transfer of Enthusiasm
- Agent OS GitHub Project
- Open Source Contribution Guidelines (Litestream)
- 37signals Book Royalties Revenue
- Effort vs Outcome Blog Post
- 1,000 True Fans
- Omarchy 2.0
- Wes Bos
- Downie – YouTube Video Downloader for macOS

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