For Leaders By Leaders
For Leaders By Leaders
Podcast Description
You’re a good leader. You might even be a great one. Whether you’re leading a team of one, two, or three thousand, how you lead determines whether you survive or thrive in the workplace. I’m Kathy Andrews, and this is the For Leaders, By Leaders podcast. We’re here for insightful conversations with real leaders, sharing inspiration and practical advice to help you unlock the best in yourself and those around you.
When you face those moments where you ask yourself, “What do I do?” or “How can I do better?”, this podcast is here to guide you. With interviews from influential leaders across industries—CEOs, entrepreneurs, authors, and thought leaders—we’ll dive into their personal stories, pivotal moments, and the strategies that led to their success. Each episode explores real-world scenarios, leadership challenges, and offers practical, actionable tools that you can apply immediately.
Think of this as a leadership coach in your pocket.
Join us on your favourite platform, and take your leadership to the next level.
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The podcast explores a range of topics including toxic work environments, effective communication, performance culture, and diversity and inclusion. Episodes feature practical scenarios like navigating toxic leadership situations with guests like Megan Smith and inspiring teams during crises with experts like Steve Vanagas.

You’re a good leader. You might even be a great one. Whether you’re leading a team of one, two, or three thousand, how you lead determines whether you survive or thrive in the workplace. I’m Kathy Andrews, and this is the For Leaders, By Leaders podcast. We’re here for insightful conversations with real leaders, sharing inspiration and practical advice to help you unlock the best in yourself and those around you.
When you face those moments where you ask yourself, “What do I do?” or “How can I do better?”, this podcast is here to guide you. With interviews from influential leaders across industries—CEOs, entrepreneurs, authors, and thought leaders—we’ll dive into their personal stories, pivotal moments, and the strategies that led to their success. Each episode explores real-world scenarios, leadership challenges, and offers practical, actionable tools that you can apply immediately.
Think of this as a leadership coach in your pocket.
Join us on your favourite platform, and take your leadership to the next level.
Elizabeth Cooke reveals how layering demographic data with engagement metrics exposes hidden disparities and creates targeted solutions. Her approach moves beyond political discourse to focus on measurable human dignity and workplace performance.
Through real-world examples and practical frameworks, this episode demonstrates how evidence-based engagement transforms DEI from a compliance checklist into a sustainable cultural practice – helping leaders create genuine belonging through curiosity, consistency, and courage.
In this episode, we explore:
(00:00) Introduction
(03:53) Why data reveals who’s engaged and who’s not
(06:53) How DEI became over-politicised and lost focus on human experience
(08:10) The business case versus moral imperative for inclusion
(12:30) Pandemic insights: why engagement improved for marginalised groups
(14:13) Leading with consistency, curiosity, and courage
(16:57) Practice over posture: small behaviours drive cultural change
(21:49) Supporting trauma and mental health while maintaining performance standards
(23:23) Inclusion as a daily leadership practice, not an initiative
(23:45) The power of asking: help me understand your experience
Connect with Elizabeth Cooke here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elisabeth-cooke/
Website: https://dignii.com/
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