Hello dear friends!

Today I’m sending out an epic and beautiful conversation I shared with tarot teacher Lindsay Mack on my podcast Fair Folk. If you enjoy the episode, please consider subscribing to Fair Folk on your podcast app (Eg. Spotify, Apple Podcasts) as I don’t often repost episodes here.

Some words of mine from the episode, inspired by a story Lindsay told about a moment with her daughter:

“When I think about going into “holding space” or waiting for something to happen, the fear in my body is that there will be an absence there, that I’ll be lonely, that it’ll be an abyss, that that nothingness will happen.

And that’s never what happens.

But I think that’s the scarcity, or fear of death that we all come into the world with, and is a part of human nature, but doesn’t drive human nature. The story we’ve been told that everyone’s just trying to win and it’s human nature to be shitty and —I don’t believe that at all. It’s a terrible, confusing lie.

And I could give many examples from history, and I love to do that. We can talk about enclosure, we can talk about the Roman Empire. We can talk about the Bronze Age, the rise of hill forts, the Indo-European invasion, and mass migrations, displacement, resource scarcity, etc. All of those things are just occasions where this kind of logic comes through, the belief that scarcity is the organizing principle of life and that it’s right to be in competition, or that there’s some sort of necessity to win, to control.

The beautiful thing about actual radical empathy for the self and for the other, of real presence, is just that — it’s always available. No one event, no culture can breed that out of the world. We’re built for love more than anything else. We’re standing on a ground that’s built of the love of all of our human and non-human ancestors. The entire world is made of that drive to connect. And not just drive, but like longing and, and joy to connect. And that’s where we live. So if spiritual empowerment is to happen, it can happen right now and always will and can.

It’s just a matter of reminding one another, and showing up for one another, and in ways that are ever renewable. It might be a completely different shape in a different culture, or we could have another Ice Age and lose almost everything that we know and we would still invent a way of connecting, and it’s glorious.”

Please enjoy this conversation, and if it inspires you, please share!

Love,

Danica

PS: Lindsay and I are co-hosting a three-hour workshop this Sunday to hold space for reclaiming the magic we all have access to, which arises from our embeddedness in the world. We would be delighted if you join us there. Click here to sign up!

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