Bicycle For The EO Mind
Podcast Description
Most small & medium businesses (SMB) struggle to sell — employee ownership is a proven exit path. Hear real stories from business owners who transitioned through employee ownership. Whether you're an owner, advisor, or investor, we dive into expert insights, practical strategies, and how technology is reshaping exit planning.
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The podcast delves into various aspects of employee ownership, addressing issues like transition strategies and the impact of technology on these processes. Specific episodes feature success stories, such as JOMA Construction's transition to an ESOP, and discuss important themes like transparent communication, aligning interests, and navigating regulatory challenges.
Most small and medium businesses (SMB) struggle to sell — employee ownership is a proven exit path. Hear real stories from business owners who transitioned through employee ownership. Whether you’re an owner, advisor, or investor, we dive into expert insights, practical strategies, and how technology is reshaping exit planning.
Meet Gina Schaefer, founder and former CEO of A Few Cool Hardware Stores, and current CEO Craig Smith. Based in the Washington-Baltimore region, they are an ESOP of 13 brick and mortar hardware stores, generating roughly $50M in annual sales, which transitioned in 2021, creating over a hundred employee owners.
Some takeaways:
- How an excited employee owner at New Belgium Brewery, and realizing employees paid $0 to become owners convinced Gina and her CFO husband Marc to choose an ESOP exit
- The Hogan leadership assessment helped Gina zero in on change management as a key trait to find in her successor, Craig
- Gina and Craig’s quest to professionalize the neighborhood brick and mortar hardware store retail experience – including building significant wealth for employee owners
- Gina had to overcome obstacles as a woman in a male-dominated business world, including how she let go of the title “CEO”.
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CHAPTERS
- (00:00) – Chapter 1
- (00:00) – Introduction to Employee Ownership
- (04:35) – The Concept of Recovery Hardware
- (04:35) – Hiring for Impact: Building Generational Wealth
- (05:05) – Mentorship and Guidance in Transition
- (06:06) – The Role of Employee Ownership Exchange Network
- (06:48) – Craig’s Journey into Hardware Ownership
- (07:42) – Navigating Employee Ownership
- (08:25) – Learning from Mentors in the ESOP Process
- (09:22) – Exploring Ownership Options
- (10:10) – The Value of ESOPs
- (11:01) – Tools and Resources for ESOPs
- (11:18) – Financial Considerations in the ESOP Decision
- (11:54) – Navigating Financial Considerations in Business Transitions
- (13:19) – The ESOP Advantage: Employee Ownership and Tax Benefits
- (14:42) – Professionalizing Retail: The Impact of Employee Ownership
- (16:42) – Building Relationships: The Role of National Cooperative Bank
- (18:44) – Manifesting Success: The Journey of Business Growth
- (20:09) – Valuation Insights: Understanding Business Worth
- (21:20) – Understanding Valuation in ESOPs
- (22:21) – Transitioning to an ESOP: The Journey Begins
- (24:59) – Change Management and Leadership Dynamics
- (29:28) – Documenting Processes for a Smooth Transition
- (30:35) – Empathy in Leadership During Change
- (31:10) – Navigating Change and Employee Concerns
- (33:30) – Understanding ESOPs and Employee Engagement
- (34:32) – Streamlining the Transition Process
- (37:50) – Setting Goals and Metrics for Success
- (38:59) – Emotional Aspects of Transitioning to ESOPs
- (41:31) – Call to Action
- (42:16) – Podcast Outro
CONNECT WITH A FEW COOL HARDWARE STORES
REFERENCED IN THIS EPISODE:
- Gina Schaefer (Founder, Former CEO): https://zolidar.com/community/person/ZVQCOT
- Craig Smith (Current CEO): https://zolidar.com/community/person/ajOKqw
- Marc Friedman (Former CFO): https://zolidar.com/community/person/-uZdOKu
- Employee Ownership Expansion Network (EOX): https://zolidar.com/community/organization/-97slr0
- Steve Storkan (Executive Director, Employee Ownership Expansion Network): https://zolidar.com/community/person/sw8H2X
- One America (ESOP service provider/Third Party Administrator): https://zolidar.com/community/organization/-BDaRBA
- National Cooperative Bank (Finance): https://zolidar.com/community/organization/qwsW28
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