Discovery Engines
Discovery Engines
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Featuring the people and platforms accelerating scientific discovery.
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The podcast covers a variety of topics related to scientific innovation, technology in research, and the deep tech startup ecosystem. Specific episodes explore themes such as the ethics and advancements in animal testing, the cultural shifts in lab automation, and the role of AI in life sciences, with examples including conversations around the founding of Olden Labs and the business structure of Bay Area Lab Automators.

Featuring the people and platforms accelerating scientific discovery. Hosted by Nabil Laoudji. More at www.discoveryengines.co
Jason Kelly, CEO of Ginkgo Bioworks, believes the future of life science R&D is autonomous, starting with the 52-cart lab he and his team have built in Boston. In this episode, I sit down with Jason to explore Ginkgo’s autonomous biology lab, its collaboration with OpenAI, the POTUS-backed Genesis Mission, and where autonomous physical systems could take science next.
Hosted by Nabil Laoudji. See below for episode links, chapters, and our socials. 🙏🙌
Episode Links:
- Ginkgo Bioworks
- Jason Kelly’s LinkedIn
- OpenAI x Ginkgo Cell-Free Protein Synthesis Collaboration
- Genesis Mission to Accelerate AI for Scientific Discovery
- PNNL’s Anaerobic Microbial Phenotyping Platform (AMP2)
- Society for Lab Automation and Screening
- GlobalData Report: Large Pharma Drug Licensing from China
Chapters:
- (00:00) – Preview
- (01:54) – Jurassic Park and the Value of Storytelling in Science
- (04:50) – What Is the Department of Energy’s AMP2 at PNNL?
- (07:17) – How Autonomous Labs Can Be Used to Run Experiments
- (11:49) – Principles of the Autonomous Lab (Waymo Analogy)
- (17:12) – Project Genesis, Competing with China in Scientific Discovery
- (23:42) – Reindustrializing America via Automation
- (37:03) – OpenAI Designing and Running Bio Experiments
- (47:17) – Advice to Frontier Labs Designing AI Intelligence for Science
- (49:24) – Ginkgo Autonomous Lab Tour
- (1:00:38) – OpenAI’s Interface With Ginkgo
- (1:02:51) – Lab Scheduler Platform
- (1:16:19) – Advice for Deep Tech Startups
- (1:22:22) – Advice for Scientists and Founders Thinking About Where to Focus in Biotech
- (1:25:18) – How Research Labs Could Better Collaborate and Communicate Results
- (1:29:23) – Advantages and Challenges of Going Public
- (1:32:14) – Public Perception of Ginkgo
- (1:33:57) – How Ginkgo’s Business Model Has Changed
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