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What if the strongest thing a man can do is feel? Gary Turner joins us to unpack a lifetime of conditioning—from schoolyard bullying to corporate stoicism—and rebuilds masculinity on a foundation of empathy, courage and community. His story moves from numbing and burnout to a quiet revolution: dropping the strongman script and choosing presence over performance.

We dive into the mechanics of unhealthy masculinity without shutting the door on the men we hope to reach. Gary explains why he swaps the word toxic for unhealthy, how macho industry cultures reward control, and why supremacy and patriarchy trap everyone in roles that hurt. He shares a visceral moment of “spiritual bankruptcy” on a beach—everything he chased, nothing he felt—and the insight that worth can’t be borrowed from status. From there, we explore what healthy strength looks like: building with care, protecting without possession, listening before leading and pairing ambition with humility.

The conversation stretches beyond self-help and into systems. We trace how colonisation, binary thinking and scarcity narratives fuel violence and despair, including why men die by suicide at higher rates. We flip Maslow on its head, acknowledging Indigenous roots and the idea that we are born actualised and held back by design. We champion yes and over either or, show how community dissolves loneliness, and talk candidly about young men, the manosphere and the digital pull toward red-pill ideologies. If Ubuntu—“I am because you are”—guides the future, then a small committed minority can tip the culture toward wholeness.

Tune in for a grounded, compassionate roadmap: reclaim your self-worth, unlearn what dims your humanity and build together with love. If this conversation moved you, follow the show, leave a review and share it with someone who needs to hear, “You are already enough.”

Music, lyrics, guitar and singing by Dr Ariel Rosita King

Teach me to live one day at a time
with courage love and a sense of pride.
Giving me the ability to love and accept myself
so I can go and give it to someone else.
Teach me to live one day at a time…..

The Business of Life
Dr Ariella (Ariel) Rosita King
Original Song, ”Teach Me to Live one Day At A Time”
written, guitar and vocals by Dr. Ariel Rosita King

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