There’s a so-called “best practice” for most business podcasts: release every week, book guests for about half your episodes, and don’t break the algorithm. This fall, keeping up with those rules nearly ended this show, so we stopped and asked what version of the podcast makes sense for us two years in.

In this episode, we tell the story of how Aggressively Human almost wrapped up. Jessica ran her own Committed Capacity Calculator, realized there was no room left for the creative projects she wanted to pursue next, and sent Meg a hard email right before Labor Day weekend. After the weekend (leaving Jessica in limbo!), Meg took her dog for a long walk, worked out what would actually be lost if the show ended, and came back with a counteroffer over a late-night Voxer exchange that felt like a high-stakes negotiation.

We talk about why we’re switching to a biweekly cadence with fewer guests, what Meg found when she ran two years of our transcripts through a research process, and why predictability still matters even when you slow down.

* How a capacity calculator turned into a “something’s gotta give” moment

* Writing (and receiving) the hard email: giving each other space to process instead of reacting

* “What would be lost?” — why the guest interviews weren’t the irreplaceable part, but our conversations were

* Thought partnership in public, and why it’s different from content made to sell

* What 920,000 words of transcripts showed about our intellectual fingerprints, and how our guest ratio shifted from about 60% to 30–40%

* Moving from “business in the age of AI” to what we’re actually building toward

* Why Jessica is a bad cold interviewer, and why fewer, deeper guest conversations make sense

* “I don’t care about the algorithm. I don’t want to break the habit.” — predictability as a form of trust

* What’s next: every other Thursday, a dedicated recording slot, and both of our new solo podcasts (Meg’s is here at Love at First Search on the platforms, Jessica’s is coming in 2027).

“What’s the gold? What do we already have that we want to do more of, instead of following someone else’s rule book that says, ‘Here’s how it’s supposed to go’? And the aggressively human way to podcast is to slow down, to do less, to rely on what we’ve already created, and to sharpen up our way of thinking so that it’s unique to us and that it’s valuable to both of us without it being extractive.” – Meg

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