Never the Same
Never the Same
Podcast Description
"Never the Same" is an interview-based podcast exploring how different work streams intersect with suicide prevention, career development, and life lessons. The title draws inspiration from Heraclitus' quote, "No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man," reflecting the ever-changing nature of life and personal growth. Each episode features conversations with guests from various fields, highlighting defining moments and shifts in thinking. The podcast aims to uncover new insights for suicide prevention while offering broader perspectives on personal and professional growth.
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
The podcast focuses on themes such as suicide prevention, career development, and the intersection of various work streams with personal lessons. Episodes cover a range of topics including the application of AI in research, supporting loved ones with substance use issues, and innovative approaches in mental health care, exemplified by discussions around the Collaborative Assessment and Management of Suicidality framework by Dr. David Jobes.

“Never the Same” is an interview-based podcast exploring how different work streams intersect with suicide prevention, career development, and life lessons. The title draws inspiration from Heraclitus’ quote, “No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it’s not the same river and he’s not the same man,” reflecting the ever-changing nature of life and personal growth. Each episode features conversations with guests from various fields, highlighting defining moments and shifts in thinking. The podcast aims to uncover new insights for suicide prevention while offering broader perspectives on personal and professional growth.
In this special episode of Never the Same, we share the full keynote address from host, Professor Tony Pisani, delivered at the Suicide Prevention Australia Conference.
Professor Pisani explores how the structure of our relationships—not just how supported we feel—can protect people from suicide risk. Drawing on studies in schools, the military, and health settings, he shows how strong, shared connections make a difference, especially when people don’t or can’t speak up.
He introduces the Connect Program, a group-based training that strengthens team cohesion and reduces suicide risk without needing people to self-identify. The episode also includes real-world examples from Western Australia and beyond.
It explores not only the importance of social structure in prevention, but HOW we can build those networks.
Key Points Covered
- Why social structure matters in suicide prevention
- The power of shared trusted adults in reducing suicide risk
- How Connect builds protective networks
- Insights from high school and military research
- Shifting suicide reviews from blame to learning
- Local examples from Western Australia, including first responder initiatives and postvention pilots
🔗 Resources Mentioned
- SafeSide Prevention: https://safesideprevention.com.au
- Connect Program: WA Workplace Connect info page
- Never the Same podcast home: Podcast page

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