Escape 9 to 5
Escape 9 to 5
Podcast Description
Freedom, Agency and Meaning. Ever thought about ditching the regular 9 to 5 to chase what truly lights you up? I'm on this path to. This podcast is all about that leap of faith—no guides, no guarantees, just real stories from those brave enough to pursue a life beyond the ordinary. Join me as we uncover the untold journeys of dreamers and doers who are carving their own paths. Let's figure out this together.
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The podcast explores themes of personal growth, career transitions, and the pursuit of meaningful work. Episodes cover various approaches to escaping traditional career paths, with examples such as Julian Treasure discussing effective communication, Nat Eliason on redefining success, and Mohan Sivaloganathan addressing burnout and mental health.

Freedom, Agency and Meaning. Ever thought about ditching the regular 9 to 5 to chase what truly lights you up? I’m on this path to. This podcast is all about that leap of faith—no guides, no guarantees, just real stories from those brave enough to pursue a life beyond the ordinary. Join me as we uncover the untold journeys of dreamers and doers who are carving their own paths. Let’s figure out this together.
What if the smartest way to escape your 9-to-5…
wasn’t quitting right away?
In this episode, I’m joined by Gillian Liu, co-founder and CMO of Kiyoko Beauty, a brand on track to reach $10M in revenue.
Gillian shares why she kept her 9-to-5 longer than most people would, took a $30K pay cut to create the right conditions for a side hustle, and how patience became her biggest advantage.
We talk about:
- Building slowly without panic
- Why not quitting can be a strategy
- Family expectations and non-traditional paths
- What it really takes to grow something on your own terms
This conversation is for anyone who feels the pressure to rush—but knows deep down that timing matters.

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