Rogue L+D Hotshots with Tom Bailey
Rogue L+D Hotshots with Tom Bailey
Podcast Description
A short podcast allowing you to meet some of the brilliant folk driving people performance and development forward.
We do this in an informal and human way.
Our host Tom Bailey, award winning L&D leader and passionate maverick for all things development.
Join us as we ask just ten questions of some of the industries most innovative and interesting people.
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
The podcast focuses on various themes such as digital transformation in education, leadership development, design thinking, and brain-friendly learning. Episodes include discussions on breaking traditional L&D practices with real-world examples, such as the BBC's training transformation and the integration of identity and purpose in career success

A short podcast allowing you to meet some of the brilliant folk driving people performance and development forward.
We do this in an informal and human way.
Our host Tom Bailey, award winning L&D leader and passionate maverick for all things development.
Join us as we ask just ten questions of some of the industries most innovative and interesting people.
What if AI isn’t threatening your job — but exposing how we work?
AI isn’t just another tool rollout, it’s reshaping how people think, work, and relate to their jobs. This episode explores why most AI initiatives struggle, what really drives adoption, and how learning and people teams can lead change without fear, guilt, or burnout. It’s a practical and human conversation about mindset, skills, and designing work that actually supports people.
Drawing on decades of experience across major UK brands and now as a consultant and author, Erica Farmer shares insights from large-scale transformation, neurodivergence, and the realities of running a modern L&D business. As co-founder of Quantum Rise Talent Group and author of AI for People Professionals, she brings a grounded, people-first lens to one of the biggest shifts facing workplaces today.
Key Takeaways
- I’ve learned that AI adoption fails when we treat it like a system rollout instead of a human shift. Hearts and minds always come before skills and tools.
- AI isn’t about working faster — it’s about removing mental load so people can do more of what actually matters. That’s the real productivity gain.
- If L&D doesn’t lead experimentation and mindset change, someone else will. And that’s how the function becomes irrelevant.
Timestamps
- [00:00:00] Introduction & purpose of the podcast
- [00:01:45] Erica’s background and move from corporate to consultancy
- [00:06:10] The realities of running an L&D business
- [00:10:45] AI as more than productivity — the mindset shift
- [00:14:20] The personal “AI dividend” and neurodivergence
- [00:17:30] Why AI adoption fails in organizations
- [00:19:50] Best L&D experience and human-first change design
- [00:27:10] Career failure, neurodivergence, and growth
- [00:33:40] Comic-Con, Marvel, and leadership metaphors
- [00:42:30] Advice for L&D leaders facing AI disruption
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