Palliatively Speaking
Palliatively Speaking
Podcast Description
In this podcast, host Toby Campbell dives into the inspiring journeys of clinicians from all corners of palliative care. You’ll hear from palliative care physicians, nurses, social workers, scientists, and chaplains who are making a profound impact through their groundbreaking research, advocacy work, innovative tools, and, of course, by being there for patients and families in their most vulnerable moments.
We’ll explore what drives them, how they got started, the challenges they've faced, and those moments of clarity that changed everything. Stick around; you’re about to be inspired and transformed.
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Content Themes
The podcast focuses on themes of compassion, resilience, and advocacy within palliative care. Episodes explore critical topics such as navigating uncertainty in pediatric palliative care and the integration of compassion in oncology, featuring examples like Dr. Arif Kamal discussing AI's role in enhancing compassionate care. The show emphasizes the challenges faced by providers, moments of clarity that shape their practice, and the importance of supporting vulnerable patients and families.

In this podcast, host Toby Campbell dives into the inspiring journeys of clinicians from all corners of palliative care. You’ll hear from palliative care physicians, nurses, social workers, scientists, and chaplains who are making a profound impact through their groundbreaking research, advocacy work, innovative tools, and, of course, by being there for patients and families in their most vulnerable moments.
We’ll explore what drives them, how they got started, the challenges they’ve faced, and those moments of clarity that changed everything. Stick around; you’re about to be inspired and transformed.

Summary:
In this episode of “Palliatively Speaking” host Toby Campbell interviews Dr. Judith Paice, the director of the Cancer Pain Program at Northwestern Memorial Hospital and co-chair of the 2023 American Society of Clinical Oncology guideline on opioid use for cancer pain. The conversation explores Dr. Paice’s 25-year involvement with the End-of-Life Nursing Education Consortium (ELNEC), a train-the-trainer program that has reached millions of healthcare professionals worldwide.
Dr. Paice discusses how ELNEC started with five planned courses, and then expanded to over 300 courses translated into multiple languages. The curriculum has been adapted for various audiences, including pediatric nurses, advanced practice nurses, and faculty.
Using personal stories and anecdotes, Dr. Paice gives a closer look at the critical challenges in pain management, particularly the tension between managing cancer pain and the opioid epidemic. She emphasizes that oncology clinicians face unique pressures as they navigate both cancer pain management and opioid safety concerns. The conversation then shifts to a discussion about the importance of primary palliative care education for all oncology providers, not just specialist palliative care teams.
Later in the episode, Dr. Paice is joined by Sarah Lowery, a nurse practitioner at OHSU and ELNEC international trainer, and a mentee of Dr. Paice. Both speakers reflect on mentorship as essential to professional development and organizational sustainability. Dr. Paice advises emerging leaders to recognize their unique contributions, overcome imposter syndrome, and offers tips for identifying potential mentees for a successful collaborative relationship.

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