What if the thing that helped you succeed is not the thing that can sustain you?

In Episode 5 of Season 2, I sit down with clinical psychologist Dr Matt Slavin for a deep and practical conversation about mental health, high performance, burnout, change, rest, self-awareness and what it really takes to build a life that is sustainable.

Matt returns to The Modern Journey after moving his family from London to New Zealand, and we talk about what that move has taught him about pace, patience, family, health and learning to live with more intention.

We also unpack the shift from “The Burnout Psychologist” to Mental Advantage, and why real transformation is not just about tips, hacks or performance content. It is about understanding yourself, building actual skills, and learning how to change patterns that may have once protected you but no longer serve you.

Matt opens up about why flexibility is a sign of strength, why change often feels worse before it feels better, why rest can feel unsafe for high performers, and why insight alone does not create lasting change.

This episode is for anyone carrying a lot, trying to grow, trying to change, or learning that success without sustainability eventually becomes expensive.

Please note: this conversation is for reflection and education, not a substitute for therapy or professional mental health support. If you are struggling, please speak to a qualified professional or someone you trust.

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Chapters:

00:00 Preview

00:38 Welcome back Dr Matt Slavin

00:58 Moving to New Zealand

03:18 Building a sustainable life

05:39 Why balance comes in seasons

07:19 Flexibility as strength

07:52 From burnout to Mental Advantage

10:04 What Mental Advantage means

11:19 Why performance advice is not enough

13:57 Psychology and high performance

15:54 Old survival techniques

18:28 When success strategies stop sustaining you

20:20 Why change feels uncomfortable

22:47 Rewiring the brain through repetition

24:43 Change inside organisations

27:09 Why rest can feel unsafe

28:22 Noticing old thoughts and patterns

32:39 Why progress is not linear

34:20 Why we need mirrors and support

35:30 Why change feels worse before better

39:48 Fear, excitement and the stories we tell

42:39 Processing after the fact

44:40 What to do if you cannot journal

47:08 Insight is not the same as change

49:29 Insight, behaviour and reflection

50:32 What psychological strength looks like

52:39 Where to start if you are carrying a lot

54:16 Permission to stop and pause

55:09 What life is asking of Matt now

57:38 Choosing family, health and what matters

59:08 Matt’s final encouragement

01:01:41 Final thoughts

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