The Third Layer
The Third Layer
Podcast Description
The Third Layer is a podcast crafted for family-owned business owners and leaders who truly understand the intricacies of navigating a business where family and leadership intersect. Hosted by Marshall Lockton, who has lived the family-owned business experience from various leadership viewpoints, guests share what they’ve learned about what makes family business leaders uniquely able to lead with culture. The podcast zeroes in on the greatest leadership lessons about culture learned throughout the career of a seasoned family business leader. We uncover how that one pivotal insight transformed them and influenced everything they do. We go beyond the first layer and ask the leader to help the audience really understand why the lesson was so important to them and how it applies to different facets of their business(es) and life. Through personal stories and expert reflections, listeners gain practical wisdom and inspiration to lead with impact, create cultures that connect stakeholders, navigate challenges unique to family business, and carry forward the legacy of their family business.
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
Key themes of The Third Layer include leadership development, culture building, personal stories, and legacy creation within family businesses. Episodes feature discussions on critical topics such as the transition of leadership in family business after loss, the significance of purpose-driven leadership, and fostering high-performance cultures, exemplified by episodes like 'Building A Legacy: Leadership In Family Business With Tyler Nottberg' and 'The Heart of a Caregiver with Andy Eby'.

The Third Layer is crafted for family-owned business leaders who understand the intricacies of navigating a business where family and leadership intersect. Host, Marshall Lockton zeroes in on the greatest leadership lessons.
Jonathan Coors, Co-CEO of CoorsTek, details the evolution of a fifth-generation family enterprise that expanded from the iconic Coors brewery into a global industrial ceramics leader. Jonathan shares his personal journey from working in politics to navigating the family business, emphasizing the necessity of earning credibility through mentorship and humility. A central focus of the conversation is the family’s innovative approach to succession: rather than selecting a single successor, they established an “Office of the CEO” comprising Jonathan, his brother, and his cousin.
This structure leverages their complementary strengths, fosters robust strategic debate, and mitigates potential family conflict. Jonathan also discusses the critical role of values-based leadership. Viewing the company as a “marble masterpiece” to be shaped, and the importance of authenticity when leading a global workforce of 5,000. It provides actionable insights on stewardship, the strategic advantages of taking a company private, and the discipline required to ensure family assets grow for future generations.
Key Themes:
Collaborative Governance (Office of the CEO)
Strategic Patience & Privatization
Stewardship vs. Ownership
Feedback Loops in Family Firms
Universal Values with Local Application
Timestamps:
07:46 – Why ceramics matter & how they enable modern technology
09:05 – Story of Adolf Coors & the founding of the brewery
12:33 – How Coors survived Prohibition & the role of entrepreneurship
13:03 – What drove the longevity of the Coors brand & family business
15:51 – Major growth milestones at CoorsTek, including acquisitions & global expansion
19:08 – Why CoorsTek went public briefly & then returned to private family ownership
36:09 – Creation of the three-person Office of the CEO & how the model works
48:25 – Leadership through culture, authenticity, & values in a 5,000-person global company
Additional Resources:
Connect with Jonathan Coors on LinkedIn
Connect with Marshall on LinkedIn
Follow PeopleForward Network on LinkedIn
Learn more about PeopleForward Network

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