Click Beta

Click Beta
Podcast Description
A futurist, a hedge fund manager, and a financial planner walk into a (virtual) bar, each carrying an investing topic the others don't know in advance. Add in some of the sharpest minds in finance as rotating guests, and what ensues is unlike any investing podcast you've ever heard. Join Dave Nadig, Jason Buck, and Matt Zeigler for unscripted conversations about markets, the economy, and whatever else crosses their minds. We hope you'll walk away a more informed investor - but we guarantee you'll enjoy the journey either way
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The podcast focuses on finance and investment themes, often delving into market trends, economic forecasts, and personal investing strategies. For instance, episodes may explore the implications of emerging technologies on investment strategies, or dissect current economic shifts affecting market dynamics, fulfilling its mission to educate and entertain listeners.

A futurist, a hedge fund manager, and a financial planner walk into a (virtual) bar, each carrying an investing topic the others don’t know in advance. Join Dave Nadig, Jason Buck, and Matt Zeigler for unscripted conversations about markets, the economy, and whatever else crosses their minds. We hope you’ll walk away a more informed investor – but we guarantee you’ll enjoy the journey either way
Join Matt Zeigler, Jason Buck, and Dave Nadig in this unfiltered and dynamic episode of Click Beta from Excess Returns. Feeling ”stupid and exhausted” from their daily grind in markets and business, the trio ditches the polished analysis for a raw, behind-the-scenes rant session. With a mix of optimism, pessimism, and plenty of tangents, they dive into pre-agreed and surprise topics—no Google allowed—offering a blend of humor, skepticism, and unscripted insights. From AI breakthroughs to geopolitical powder kegs, this episode is a rollercoaster of ideas, seasoned with their signature banter and a touch of nihilism.
**Main Topics Covered:**
– **AI’s Right and Left Tails:** The hosts explore AI’s potential for transformative breakthroughs (like rewriting Social Security’s COBOL code) versus its risks, including trust erosion and overhyped promises.
– **Tariffs and Economic Policy:** They debate the optimistic case for tariffs reshaping U.S. manufacturing and tax policy (e.g., a VAT system) against the reality of roboticization and political chaos.
– **Geopolitical Tensions:** From the U.S. as a fading global bully to speculative left-tail events like Arctic shipping disputes or an accidental spark in Africa, they ponder the end of Pax Americana.
– **Community and Legacy:** The conversation shifts to pro-social thinking—how AI might free up time for community, contrasted with musings on legacy, ancestry, and whether it even matters.
– **Surprise Topics:** – *Canadian Animosity Toward the U.S.:* Is Canada’s current patriotism a fleeting protest or a lasting shift?
– *Broadening Perspectives:* Matt seeks ways to inspire long-term, pro-social thinking in everyday life.
– *D.C. Real Estate and Political Scapegoats:* Jason speculates on buying the dip in D.C. housing and Elon Musk as Trump’s potential fall guy.
No investment advice here—just three market-weary friends riffing on the world as they see it. Like, subscribe, and share if you enjoyed the chaos!

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