O-Types Rising
O-Types Rising
Podcast Description
O-Types Rising celebrates visionary founders and leaders who thrive on curiosity, connection, and challenging the status quo. Hosted by Jen Rice, each episode uncovers how O-types leverage their unique strengths and strategies to innovate, scale, and shape the future — while candidly exploring the challenges they face along the way.Whether you’re an O-type leader yourself or someone who works with one, this podcast will inspire, challenge, and equip you to thrive in today’s volatile, interconnected world.
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The podcast covers themes of curiosity, innovation, and organizational dynamics, with episodes featuring discussions on topics such as AI's impact on education, the future of learning, and the importance of collaboration within software engineering. Specific episodes include explorations of ecosystems with Ron Kersic, the evolution of personal learning with Graham Glass, and rethinking team dynamics with John Durrant.
O-Types Rising celebrates visionary founders and leaders who thrive on curiosity, connection, and challenging the status quo. Hosted by Jen Rice, each episode uncovers how O-types leverage their unique strengths and strategies to innovate, scale, and shape the future — while candidly exploring the challenges they face along the way.
Whether you’re an O-type leader yourself or someone who works with one, this podcast will inspire, challenge, and equip you to thrive in today’s volatile, interconnected world.
Our guest this week is Ron Kersic, a Digital Strategy & Innovation expert at ING who advises both internally and externally with startups and scaleups. In this wide-ranging conversation, we cover platforms and ecosystems, AI’s impact on our relationship with computers (shifting from “oracle to muse”), and the importance of rethinking business structures, perspectives and mindsets. Ron also offers practical advice for founders and ‘O types’ on focusing their curiosity and embracing ambiguity as a strength in the modern business landscape.
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00:00 Introduction to O Types Rising
00:22 Meet Ron Kersic: Futuring Architect
01:53 Exploring Ecosystems and Platforms
05:54 The Role of Technology in Business
11:14 Generative AI: A New Paradigm
21:25 Rethinking Organizations
24:52 The Value of Niches and Ecosystems
25:59 The Role of External Participants
27:31 Lessons from Airbnb’s Ecosystem
28:52 B2B and Ecosystem Innovation
33:44 The Importance of Slowing Down
36:58 Embracing the O Type Mindset
39:16 Advice for O Types and Founders
42:25 Closing Thoughts and Reflections
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