Say Grace
Say Grace
Podcast Description
A soulful exploration of the hospitality industry through the eyes of celebrated restaurateur and author Steve Palmer. Combining the richness of grace—a pre-meal tradition in the South, a gift freely given, and a timeless virtue—with the transformative journey of hospitality, this podcast dives deep into the stories behind the industry. With heartfelt conversations, Palmer uncovers personal journeys of resilience, mental health breakthroughs, and sources of inspiration, showcasing how lives are shaped and changed by the world of service. Say Grace is your place to reflect, connect, and savor thoughtful narratives. Pull up a chair, and join the dialogue about food, people, and the grace that sustains them both.
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Focuses on personal narratives and transformative journeys within hospitality, touching on topics such as mental health resilience and the importance of community support, with episodes exemplified by the discussion with chef Mike Lata about local culinary traditions and professional growth.
A soulful exploration of the hospitality industry through the eyes of celebrated restaurateur and author Steve Palmer. Combining the richness of grace—a pre-meal tradition in the South, a gift freely given, and a timeless virtue—with the transformative journey of hospitality, this podcast dives deep into the stories behind the industry. With heartfelt conversations, Palmer uncovers personal journeys of resilience, mental health breakthroughs, and sources of inspiration, showcasing how lives are shaped and changed by the world of service. Say Grace is your place to reflect, connect, and savor thoughtful narratives. Pull up a chair, and join the dialogue about food, people, and the grace that sustains them both.
Kyle Knall is the Culinary Director at Stone Bank Farms and chef/co-owner of Birch in Milwaukee, which he operates with his wife, Meghan. At Birch, he champions regionally sourced ingredients cooked over an open hearth, emphasizing sustainability and honest, flavorful food. His impact on Milwaukee’s dining scene has earned him multiple James Beard Foundation semifinalist nominations, including Best Chef: Midwest (2024, 2025) and Outstanding Chef (2022). Birch was also named to The New York Times’ 2023 “Restaurant List,” praised for its “worldly Midwestern cuisine free of clichés.” After serving as executive chef of Electric Lemon, Kyle and Meghan settled in Milwaukee, opening Birch and recently-opened CASSIS, a French bistro, in 2025.
In this episode, Kyle joins Steve for a conversation on how growing up in the South and his Italian heritage shaped his cooking career and approach, the differences in food cultures across the various regions where he has worked, and the importance of creating a sense of place and ownership for his Milwaukee community through his restaurants.
Thank you to Stolon Food Lab for allowing us to use the space to film this episode.
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