To find out more about SaySo, click on this link to download now: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sayso-curated-news-digests/id6761196625In this segment, Jack of Reform Watch argues that the immigration crisis was manufactured. Recorded in Clacton two days before the by-election, he makes the case that Reform's move toward the centre is presentational rather than real, that the immigration issue was invented to stoke racial tension, and that the people telling him to let Reform win a term in government to expose themselves are making a catastrophic mistake.Topics covered in this segment include:- Have Reform gone soft, or just moved to the centre to get elected?- Why Jack still calls them a far right party- ”Let them win a term and show how incompetent they are” — and why he calls that absurd- Steve Bannon, transnational far right networks and authoritarian instincts- ”Never, ever allow these people anywhere near the levers of power”- Elon Musk, the claim that Hitler was a socialist, and reframing history- First it was Polish builders, now it's Muslims: the shifting villain- The El Salvador plan as a dead cat- Refugees are a tiny share. Students are the biggest group. Nobody knows that.- The Dublin Convention and what leaving the EU actually cost- John Major on Reform having no philosophy- Hungary, Orbán, and how these parties actually get beaten- The Overton window, and agreeing with people he used to be furious at- Michael Heseltine on why the 1930s comparison is about language, not Nazis- The woman in Makerfield who said the sexist quotes didn't matter- Is Reform a cult?- Clacton's deprivation, Reform's voting record, and the debate they didn't turn up forWe are grateful to the Ian Mactaggart Programme for its support of this episode. Administered by the Free Speech Union, the Ian Mactaggart Programme was established to foster a culture of open debate, independent thinking, and free expression among young people in the United Kingdom, with a particular focus on students. Further information and applications are available at https://freespeechunion.org/grants/.This episode is sponsored by Suffrago. Suffrago is a democracy polling platform that allows individuals to share their views on local and national issues in real time, with responses routed directly to their MP and relevant public affairs committees. To participate, visit suffrago.orgThe full episode is available on our Youtube.Views expressed by guests are their own. We invite candidates from across the political spectrum and challenge all of them.📲 Follow us: Instagram | TikTok | @TheConversationCabinet#ReformUK #NigelFarage #Clacton #UKPolitics #Immigration #GenZ #ReformWatch #news #politics #podcast