The Future of Finance Podcast
The Future of Finance Podcast
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Join us as we dive into the transformative power of finance and its potential to create a sustainable, equitable future. Hosted by Georges Dyer, Executive Director of the Intentional Endowments Network, this podcast brings together trailblazing experts, visionary investors, passionate students, and innovative thinkers across finance, academia, sustainability, policy, and civil society.
Through engaging conversations, we explore big ideas like sustainable investing, impact-driven strategies, reimagining capitalism, tackling climate change, reducing inequality, and reshaping economic systems to better serve people and the planet. Whether you’re a student aspiring to shape the future of finance or an investor seeking meaningful impact, this podcast is your gateway to understanding how the financial system can evolve to meet today’s challenges and restore the natural systems we all depend on. Subscribe now and be part of the conversation shaping the future!
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The podcast focuses on themes such as sustainable investing, climate justice, impact-driven strategies, and reimagining capitalism, with episodes like 'Shifting Trillions' discussing mission-aligned investing at The Sierra Club Foundation and exploring frameworks for aligning investments with positive social and environmental outcomes.
Join us as we explore the transformative power of finance to build a sustainable, equitable future. Hosted by Georges Dyer, Executive Director of the Intentional Endowments Network, this podcast brings together experts, investors, and thinkers across finance, academia, sustainability, policy, and civil society.
Conversations dig into fiduciary duty, responsible AI, system-level investing, sustainable investing, climate change, inequality, and reshaping economic systems to serve people and the planet. Whether you’re a student or an investor seeking impact, this is your gateway to understanding how finance can evolve to meet today’s challenges. Subscribe and join the conversation!
Large pension funds own a slice of nearly every company, so their long-term returns depend on the health of the real economy. In this System-Level Investing series episode, Host Georges Dyer is joined by Dirk Schoenmaker, Professor of Banking and Finance at Rotterdam School of Management, Erasmus University, and chair of the investment committee at Dutch pension fund PFZW, and Willem Schramade, Professor of Finance at Nyenrode Business University, along with handbook co-editor William Burckart. Drawing on their chapter in The Handbook of System-Level Investing, “A Real Economy Approach to Integrated Investing and Portfolio Management,” they explain how investors can put a value on a company’s social and environmental impact and use it to build portfolios.
Key themes:
- Integrated value and the futureproofing ratio: adding social and environmental value to financial value
- A three-phase portfolio approach, and how it fits with universal ownership
- Telling credible improvers apart from the rest through company-level analysis
- Fiduciary duty and how integrated investing relates to system-level investing
A candid look at measuring what markets do not yet price. Catch the rest of the System-Level Investing series on the channel.
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Resources:
- The Handbook of System-Level Investing (eds. Jon Lukomnik and William Burckart):https://www.amazon.com/dp/1939282594
- “A Real Economy Approach to Integrated Investing and Portfolio Management” (Schoenmaker and Schramade), working paper: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5744268
- “Futureproofing Companies and Valuation Ratios” (Schramade, Schoenmaker et al.), the source of the Dutch and German index rankings discussed: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5242113
- Taskforce on Inequality and Social-related Financial Disclosures: https://www.tisfd.org/
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General Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
03:14 Pension funds and the real economy
06:51 Measuring integrated value
14:38 A three-phase portfolio approach
17:22 Diversification and universal ownership
22:44 Identifying credible improvers
31:52 Integrated vs. system-level investing
33:30 Fiduciary duty and the goal of the firm
38:27 When externalities stay unpriced
40:58 Rapid-fire questions
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