What if generative AI isn’t the enemy of learning to code — but one of the best tools we can hand our students? In this episode, host Julie York sits down with Dr. Beth Simon and Dr. Kate Lockwood, two CS educators bridging the high school-to-college divide, to talk about a new CSTA professional development course that charts a practical middle path between banning AI and going full vibe-code. They share how focused, free tools and simple sentence frames can help students build stronger debugging, testing, and critical thinking skills — and why the conversation matters now more than ever.